The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

[Jinder]

Voting no is one thing but voting no and then leaving the union……..WTF!!!

How on earth do you expect a weakened union to negotiate a better deal??

They had their chance and they blew it, you are supposed to negotiate a better deal than the one being offered

[Walter sobchak]

Voting no is one thing but voting no and then leaving the union……..WTF!!!

How on earth do you expect a weakened union to negotiate a better deal??

They had their chance and they blew it, you are supposed to negotiate a better deal than the one being offered

Ok but how does a weakened union negotiate a better deal for you?

[mags999]

At least we will get ihr easier because it will cost Royal mail half the amount cheers union

[pmn123]

I have now read all of the agreement aka the Dave Ward Chamberlain request in the musketeers FB lads on the run tour blog.
I have listed below are the pluses of the agreement;

[sixfoottwo]

Serious question, how will this be voted in?

Absolute car crash this, surely it won't be no?

[toonshola]

Serious question, how will this be voted in?

Absolute car crash this, surely it won't be no?

It’s such a bad deal it’s almost like the union want a no vote. Why that might be who knows?

[billycat]

To be honest i am glad the union has got some kind of agreement everything royal mail wanted was happening anyway it gives me twelve months to find a more suitable job if i so choose,by voting no in my opinion will change nothing except more strikes don't get me wrong i think the agreement is terrible but i will be voting for it if the union are telling me that is the best deal they could get so be it.

[post6675]

'inflation busting payrise' 'win the ballot win the dispute' unreal. the writting has been on the wall for a while that the deal was going to be bad. this has been a case of CWU ametaurs debating professionals and getting schooled. ST must be getting a round of applause through the office right now

union have looked defeated and beat down for a while on their live videos. will be interesting to see how many people cancel their subs. this union is inept and posties deserve better

[guardianangel]

The annualised hours and flexibility agreement is an absolute mess and will only be abused by managers ,this part of the agreement will be an absolute nightmare to work with not just for bosses but posties too ,does mail centre workers have the 30 min flexi too,this part alone is worth a big fat NO VOTE !!!!!, it never worked in 2007 ,CWU what the hell are you playing at agreeing to this .

[postslippete]

So I get to work 60/90 mins later so I can’t pick up my kids, work alongside new staff on inferior terms than me and will be “performance managed” under some vague future agreement using my pda to track me. And I’ll get a whopping 3.3% per year when inflation this year is over 10%. Quick Mr Ward hand me the pen where do I sign?!

In all seriousness it’s a big NO from me and Ward and his gang of clowns all need replaced over the next few months. What an absolutely disgusting kick in the teeth deal that is. Everyone involved in negotiating it should hang their heads in complete shame.
I’m now 50/50 on being a union member going forward, I just can’t financially support these corrupt idiots anymore.

I feel the same

Let down by Union leaders who are completely out of their depth. Dave Ward should resign and go back to his old postal round and we should get someone else in charge of the CWU with a bit of intelligence and who is able to get to the f**king point without going round all the houses waffling on like he does on CWU live getting us absolutely nowhere.

Just look at the CWU's performance and ask yourself what other Union have cocked up on the ballots or have been forced to cancel strikes?? The Union has become an embarrassment to all other Unions and this deal is an absolute shocker. It makes you wonder if both Dave and Andy took a bung from Royal Mail to push out this deal to the members because it's a sell-out deal, make no mistake about it.

[chickenwittle]

The annualised hours and flexibility agreement is an absolute mess and will only be abused by managers ,this part of the agreement will be an absolute nightmare to work with not just for bosses but posties too ,does mail centre workers have the 30 min flexi too,this part alone is worth a big fat NO VOTE !!!!!, it never worked in 2007 ,CWU what the hell are you playing at agreeing to this .

They haven’t even explained how the 30 min flex would work because they are not trialling it until July , will it be optional or not ? This deal could be voted through and we don’t even know what we are voting for on this subject alone.

[sixfoottwo]

Anyone remember the No strings payrise mantra, jesus how far we have fallen

[chickenwittle]

The annualised hours and flexibility agreement is an absolute mess and will only be abused by managers ,this part of the agreement will be an absolute nightmare to work with not just for bosses but posties too ,does mail centre workers have the 30 min flexi too,this part alone is worth a big fat NO VOTE !!!!!, it never worked in 2007 ,CWU what the hell are you playing at agreeing to this .

It actually worked well for us in 2007 because it was always optional so never happened, this time round I don’t believe Royal Mail will allow this to happen.

[lobsterhands]

20% share in profits …, I’m still waiting for my “ Share in Success “ bonus they did a few years ago.
Ps… I’ve got the crappy certificate knocking about somewhere aswell, I don’t trust anything these lot say.

[guardianangel]

The annualised hours and flexibility agreement is an absolute mess and will only be abused by managers ,this part of the agreement will be an absolute nightmare to work with not just for bosses but posties too ,does mail centre workers have the 30 min flexi too,this part alone is worth a big fat NO VOTE !!!!!, it never worked in 2007 ,CWU what the hell are you playing at agreeing to this .

It actually worked well for us in 2007 because it was always optional so never happened, this time round I don’t believe Royal Mail will allow this to happen.

In 2007 in our office they tried forcing it on us ,every royal mail manager interprets agreements differently, and the union are always found wanting when it comes to sorting it out,i will vote NO but if for some unbelievable reason it gets voted through i will forever be done with the cwu.