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Acca Dacca
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Re: Dear union

Post by Acca Dacca »

Ive blocked this clown and dont see his posts but those who are arguing with him keep quoting his bile which means the rest of us who have him on ignore still have to read whatever nonsense he is spouting.

Do us all a favour and put him on ignore too please!

He thrives on getting a reaction.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
aiden01
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Re: Dear union

Post by aiden01 »

Acca Dacca wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:00
Ive blocked this clown and dont see his posts but those who are arguing with him keep quoting his bile which means the rest of us who have him on ignore still have to read whatever nonsense he is spouting.

Do us all a favour and put him on ignore too please!

He thrives on getting a reaction.
Was just going to post something similar why does everybody not put him on ignore an maybe just maybe he will take the hint :thumbup :thumbup
ProudhonPJ
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Re: Dear union

Post by ProudhonPJ »

aiden01 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:13
Acca Dacca wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:00
Ive blocked this clown and dont see his posts but those who are arguing with him keep quoting his bile which means the rest of us who have him on ignore still have to read whatever nonsense he is spouting.

Do us all a favour and put him on ignore too please!

He thrives on getting a reaction.
Was just going to post something similar why does everybody not put him on ignore an maybe just maybe he will take the hint :thumbup :thumbup
Ha, ditto! Thing is though he's now sent me a private message - watch out for this. And he still seems to think it's all because he has a different opinion.
aiden01
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Re: Dear union

Post by aiden01 »

ProudhonPJ wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:18
aiden01 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:13
Acca Dacca wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:00
Ive blocked this clown and dont see his posts but those who are arguing with him keep quoting his bile which means the rest of us who have him on ignore still have to read whatever nonsense he is spouting.

Do us all a favour and put him on ignore too please!

He thrives on getting a reaction.
Was just going to post something similar why does everybody not put him on ignore an maybe just maybe he will take the hint :thumbup :thumbup
Ha, ditto! Thing is though he's now sent me a private message - watch out for this. And he still seems to think it's all because he has a different opinion. Why doesn't he realise it's because he's an ignorant c*nt?!
:nana :nana :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup surely if hes now taken to private messaging people he should be banned.
2yearpostie
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Re: Dear union

Post by 2yearpostie »

ProudhonPJ wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:18
aiden01 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:13
Acca Dacca wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:00
Ive blocked this clown and dont see his posts but those who are arguing with him keep quoting his bile which means the rest of us who have him on ignore still have to read whatever nonsense he is spouting.

Do us all a favour and put him on ignore too please!

He thrives on getting a reaction.
Was just going to post something similar why does everybody not put him on ignore an maybe just maybe he will take the hint :thumbup :thumbup
Ha, ditto! Thing is though he's now sent me a private message - watch out for this. And he still seems to think it's all because he has a different opinion.
Another member asked me a question, I replied without using any abusive comments explain why I post and think the way I do. I see no reason why you or any of my fan club need to comment. Maybe if you lot didnt reply to me the threads would go so far off target?

I only reply when I dont agree or think a post maybe misleading to other members or to answer criticims of myself.

Ironically im standing up to the members on here who are bullys which is what they believe they are doing to the management.

( Apoligies to the other members of the forum and the long suffering mods)
Schiff
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Re: Dear union

Post by Schiff »

2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:56
Frankie15 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:48
But yet you still refuse to stand side by side with your colleagues to stop the above from happening!!! :d'oh!
No, im genuinely scared of losing big contracts and having no job at all when its getting rather scary out there bill wise. Id sooner have a crap job than no job.
You don't think that the board will, in reality, be equally scared of losing big contracts and the company ging under? If that happpens then they will have massively failed the shareholders that they are employed to protect and ensure that they get a good return from their investment.

At the moment there are more job vacancies than job seekers. If you are happy to have a crap job then there are already plenty of such vacancies. I want to keep this a decent job with decent wages and decent terms and conditions. I am prepared to fight for that. If RM goes under as a result then so be it.

I am confident that I can very easily get another job if it came to it. You claim to have worked in other jobs, so you should also be confident in yourself that you won't simply be out of work. You come across as someone who is seriously risk averse - someone who won't fight for anything at all in case you end up on the losing side. The problem with that attitude is that you are aslo likely to achieve very little if you aren't prepared to take a risk.

Thankfully most people aren't like you. They are prepared to fight for things that matter to them. You, on the other hand, will simply accept whatever you are offered and be grateful for it. You really are an employers dream.
2yearpostie
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Re: Dear union

Post by 2yearpostie »

Schiff wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:25
2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:56
Frankie15 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:48
But yet you still refuse to stand side by side with your colleagues to stop the above from happening!!! :d'oh!
No, im genuinely scared of losing big contracts and having no job at all when its getting rather scary out there bill wise. Id sooner have a crap job than no job.
You don't think that the board will, in reality, be equally scared of losing big contracts and the company ging under? If that happpens then they will have massively failed the shareholders that they are employed to protect and ensure that they get a good return from their investment.

At the moment there are more job vacancies than job seekers. If you are happy to have a crap job then there are already plenty of such vacancies. I want to keep this a decent job with decent wages and decent terms and conditions. I am prepared to fight for that. If RM goes under as a result then so be it.

I am confident that I can very easily get another job if it came to it. You claim to have worked in other jobs, so you should also be confident in yourself that you won't simply be out of work. You come across as someone who is seriously risk averse - someone who won't fight for anything at all in case you end up on the losing side. The problem with that attitude is that you are aslo likely to achieve very little if you aren't prepared to take a risk.

Thankfully most people aren't like you. They are prepared to fight for things that matter to them. You, on the other hand, will simply accept whatever you are offered and be grateful for it. You really are an employers dream.
I believe in a honest days pay, When broken down its not a difficult job and I believe £12.5op/h is well paid for what we do.
Yes i am risk averse.
Yes I have had other bad jobs, thats how I know even under the proposed conditions this one would still be better.
Its deeply worrying that you (and others ) would happily see RM collapse and put the people who want to work here out of a job. Maybe upskilling yourself into a better job than we currently have is an option?
Schiff
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Re: Dear union

Post by Schiff »

2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:31
Schiff wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:25
2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:56
Frankie15 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:48
But yet you still refuse to stand side by side with your colleagues to stop the above from happening!!! :d'oh!
No, im genuinely scared of losing big contracts and having no job at all when its getting rather scary out there bill wise. Id sooner have a crap job than no job.
You don't think that the board will, in reality, be equally scared of losing big contracts and the company ging under? If that happpens then they will have massively failed the shareholders that they are employed to protect and ensure that they get a good return from their investment.

At the moment there are more job vacancies than job seekers. If you are happy to have a crap job then there are already plenty of such vacancies. I want to keep this a decent job with decent wages and decent terms and conditions. I am prepared to fight for that. If RM goes under as a result then so be it.

I am confident that I can very easily get another job if it came to it. You claim to have worked in other jobs, so you should also be confident in yourself that you won't simply be out of work. You come across as someone who is seriously risk averse - someone who won't fight for anything at all in case you end up on the losing side. The problem with that attitude is that you are aslo likely to achieve very little if you aren't prepared to take a risk.

Thankfully most people aren't like you. They are prepared to fight for things that matter to them. You, on the other hand, will simply accept whatever you are offered and be grateful for it. You really are an employers dream.
I believe in a honest days pay, When broken down its not a difficult job and I believe £12.5op/h is well paid for what we do.
Yes i am risk averse.
Yes I have had other bad jobs, thats how I know even under the proposed conditions this one would still be better.
Its deeply worrying that you (and others ) would happily see RM collapse and put the people who want to work here out of a job. Maybe upskilling yourself into a better job than we currently have is an option?
So sad.

The purpose of a union is for the members to remain united. You had the chance to make your view known when we were balloted for industrial action. The overwhelming majority decided that they weren't prepared to simply take it up the backside and accept that this would become a shitty job. They voted to take a stand. You should now be standing together with your striking colleagues in that fight, acknowledging that very very few think like you do. Instead you spend your time on here trying to undermine the sacrifices that others are now making on your behalf.

Time to read the room and shut up.
2yearpostie
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Re: Dear union

Post by 2yearpostie »

Schiff wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:51
2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:31
Schiff wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:25
2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:56
Frankie15 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:48
But yet you still refuse to stand side by side with your colleagues to stop the above from happening!!! :d'oh!
No, im genuinely scared of losing big contracts and having no job at all when its getting rather scary out there bill wise. Id sooner have a crap job than no job.
You don't think that the board will, in reality, be equally scared of losing big contracts and the company ging under? If that happpens then they will have massively failed the shareholders that they are employed to protect and ensure that they get a good return from their investment.

At the moment there are more job vacancies than job seekers. If you are happy to have a crap job then there are already plenty of such vacancies. I want to keep this a decent job with decent wages and decent terms and conditions. I am prepared to fight for that. If RM goes under as a result then so be it.

I am confident that I can very easily get another job if it came to it. You claim to have worked in other jobs, so you should also be confident in yourself that you won't simply be out of work. You come across as someone who is seriously risk averse - someone who won't fight for anything at all in case you end up on the losing side. The problem with that attitude is that you are aslo likely to achieve very little if you aren't prepared to take a risk.

Thankfully most people aren't like you. They are prepared to fight for things that matter to them. You, on the other hand, will simply accept whatever you are offered and be grateful for it. You really are an employers dream.
I believe in a honest days pay, When broken down its not a difficult job and I believe £12.5op/h is well paid for what we do.
Yes i am risk averse.
Yes I have had other bad jobs, thats how I know even under the proposed conditions this one would still be better.
Its deeply worrying that you (and others ) would happily see RM collapse and put the people who want to work here out of a job. Maybe upskilling yourself into a better job than we currently have is an option?
So sad.

The purpose of a union is for the members to remain united. You had the chance to make your view known when we were balloted for industrial action. The overwhelming majority decided that they weren't prepared to simply take it up the backside and accept that this would become a shitty job. They voted to take a stand. You should now be standing together with your striking colleagues in that fight, acknowledging that very very few think like you do. Instead you spend your time on here trying to undermine the sacrifices that others are now making on your behalf.

Time to read the room and shut up.
The views of those who voted no, voted to strike ( but didnt really want to) and those not in the union arent relevent in this situation?
Have I moved to China?
Schiff
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Re: Dear union

Post by Schiff »

2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:54


The views of those who voted no, voted to strike ( but didnt really want to) and those not in the union arent relevent in this situation?
Have I moved to China?
The views of those not in the union are totally irrelevant to industrial action organised by the union. If they don't pay their subs then they aren't entitled to any say at all. They accept what they get.

Those who took part in the vote and voted "no" made their views known by doing so. They were in a tiny minority. As union members they are expected to then unite behind the majority decision.

As for your other suggestion, who the hell would take part in a secret ballot with 2 choices and vote for the option which wasn't what they really wanted?

Have you moved to China? Go on. Make my day.
Acca Dacca
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Re: Dear union

Post by Acca Dacca »

Please put him on ignore Schiff

Click on his profile and click 'add foe'
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
k979aaa
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Re: Dear union

Post by k979aaa »

Exactly we have had the time for democracy we voted I voted to strike and stand by that even now for every one detractor on here I hear so much more good things by many others on here. I feel good about all our actions so far and am heartened by most peoples responses I meet in the street or just work.
chrisj
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Re: Dear union

Post by chrisj »

Schiff wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 17:07
2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:54


The views of those who voted no, voted to strike ( but didnt really want to) and those not in the union arent relevent in this situation?
Have I moved to China?
The views of those not in the union are totally irrelevant to industrial action organised by the union. If they don't pay their subs then they aren't entitled to any say at all. They accept what they get.

Those who took part in the vote and voted "no" made their views known by doing so. They were in a tiny minority. As union members they are expected to then unite behind the majority decision.

As for your other suggestion, who the hell would take part in a secret ballot with 2 choices and vote for the option which wasn't what they really wanted?

Have you moved to China? Go on. Make my day.x
Sadly everyone's view is relevant because we have collective bargaining and some might feel that the Union is actually jeopardising their jobs and future whether they like it or not! It is hard one to work with if someone really does not want any of the Union's stuff or disagree with them - it is like a cartel!

Some people here will go on the strikes and then berate the Union when they strike a deal - there is no pleading everyone. Are we going to vote on the agreement reached - I doubt it!
chrisj
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Re: Dear union

Post by chrisj »

I should also like to say that the purpose of the Union is not to be united - what sort of statement is that!

The purpose is to get the best for their members - simple as!

It is possible to be led by donkeys - be vigilant and not be a sheep!
cod
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Joined: 28 Jul 2007, 14:01

Re: Dear union

Post by cod »

2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:54
Schiff wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:51
2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:31
Schiff wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 16:25
2yearpostie wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:56
Frankie15 wrote:
04 Sep 2022, 14:48
But yet you still refuse to stand side by side with your colleagues to stop the above from happening!!! :d'oh!
No, im genuinely scared of losing big contracts and having no job at all when its getting rather scary out there bill wise. Id sooner have a crap job than no job.
You don't think that the board will, in reality, be equally scared of losing big contracts and the company ging under? If that happpens then they will have massively failed the shareholders that they are employed to protect and ensure that they get a good return from their investment.

At the moment there are more job vacancies than job seekers. If you are happy to have a crap job then there are already plenty of such vacancies. I want to keep this a decent job with decent wages and decent terms and conditions. I am prepared to fight for that. If RM goes under as a result then so be it.

I am confident that I can very easily get another job if it came to it. You claim to have worked in other jobs, so you should also be confident in yourself that you won't simply be out of work. You come across as someone who is seriously risk averse - someone who won't fight for anything at all in case you end up on the losing side. The problem with that attitude is that you are aslo likely to achieve very little if you aren't prepared to take a risk.

Thankfully most people aren't like you. They are prepared to fight for things that matter to them. You, on the other hand, will simply accept whatever you are offered and be grateful for it. You really are an employers dream.
I believe in a honest days pay, When broken down its not a difficult job and I believe £12.5op/h is well paid for what we do.
Yes i am risk averse.
Yes I have had other bad jobs, thats how I know even under the proposed conditions this one would still be better.
Its deeply worrying that you (and others ) would happily see RM collapse and put the people who want to work here out of a job. Maybe upskilling yourself into a better job than we currently have is an option?
So sad.

The purpose of a union is for the members to remain united. You had the chance to make your view known when we were balloted for industrial action. The overwhelming majority decided that they weren't prepared to simply take it up the backside and accept that this would become a shitty job. They voted to take a stand. You should now be standing together with your striking colleagues in that fight, acknowledging that very very few think like you do. Instead you spend your time on here trying to undermine the sacrifices that others are now making on your behalf.

Time to read the room and shut up.
The views of those who voted no, voted to strike ( but didnt really want to) and those not in the union arent relevent in this situation?
Have I moved to China?
What a shock 2yearpostie jumping up the management backside, no we're not worth a payrise are we, I mean we're not multi millionaire shareholders or CEOs or high up mangers, we're just grunts who should just accept their lowly position shut up and get on with it, all the millions of profits that was made off our backs should obviously go to Czech billionaire who's gonna asset strip the company and steal our pension pot, we deserve nothing, and if this Czech billionaire does get a controlling share you'll be out of job anyway cos like I said he'll asset strip the crap out of us and all that's left if anything will be a part time deliveroo type job, or we could stick together like well over 90% voted for and stand up for ourselves and protect a 500 year old company, 2year is your real name Simon perhaps