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Scan as inaccessible Parcels you don't have time to deliver!

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ArthurPewty
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Re: Scan as inaccessible Parcels you don't have time to deliver!

Post by ArthurPewty »

Not allowed by who? Management worried about losing their bonus?
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Yep, those people. We’d be shot for selecting that truthful option on the pda.
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If push came to shove the only person getting shot is the manager - by his manager. He aint got a leg to stand on
heraldmoth
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Re: Scan as inaccessible Parcels you don't have time to deliver!

Post by heraldmoth »

itsthepostie wrote:
09 Jan 2025, 18:47
"It comes as some customers have reported receiving said 'inaccessible' emails despite not hearing a knock at the door, the Telegraph reports."

:chuckle
How do you knock a door that’s inaccessible? You can’t, because it’s inaccessible
Beanyjazz
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Post by Beanyjazz »

Evri has been doing this for years! Nice to see us competing with the worst now instead of the best.
Jb1969
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Had this last Saturday from a RM tracked 24 being delivered by Parcelforce.
At the time he said it was inaccessible I was talking to my local Posty whilst doing some gardening!!
Dorset Plodder
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Post by Dorset Plodder »

Barnacle wrote:
09 Jan 2025, 20:30
Yep, those people. We’d be shot for selecting that truthful option on the pda.
That's well out of order Barnacle. Shocked to hear it. :shock:

Perhaps you want to try the ''Raising a Concern'' Tile on the People App (as suggested in another post) :hmmmm

At least it bypasses your Bonus Hunting Manager! :cuppa
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ted_e_bear
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Re: Scan as inaccessible Parcels you don't have time to deliver!

Post by ted_e_bear »

heraldmoth wrote:
09 Jan 2025, 22:19
itsthepostie wrote:
09 Jan 2025, 18:47
"It comes as some customers have reported receiving said 'inaccessible' emails despite not hearing a knock at the door, the Telegraph reports."

:chuckle
How do you knock a door that’s inaccessible? You can’t, because it’s inaccessible
I think the point of this thread is parcels are being scanned as inaccessible when the truth is delivery hasn't even been attempted.
Dorset Plodder
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Post by Dorset Plodder »

ted_e_bear wrote:
10 Jan 2025, 18:46


I think the point of this thread is parcels are being scanned as inaccessible when the truth is delivery hasn't even been attempted.
.... :thumbup
Correct Mate. But it ticks the box and everyone's happy .... Apart from the Reciever that is. :sad:

The problem is is obviously hides the real picture from Higher Management, The Regulator, The Customer and The Public. :cuppa
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Re: Scan as inaccessible Parcels you don't have time to deliver!

Post by enskied »

theotherone wrote:
08 Jan 2025, 19:40
Bog standard practice since the invention of Tracked parcels.
I think partly through a lack of training many people wouldn't even know 'delivery not attempted' was an option.
I've been using delivery not attempted for...well god knows how long. I used to get a telling off, but recently we are told to use this option.

Management eh.
CharlesSpooner
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Post by CharlesSpooner »

Barnacle wrote:
09 Jan 2025, 20:20
theotherone wrote:
08 Jan 2025, 19:40
Bog standard practice since the invention of Tracked parcels.
I think partly through a lack of training many people wouldn't even know 'delivery not attempted' was an option.
You’re not allowed to select that.
You absolutely are allowed to use it. It's right there as an available option.

I've been doing so for ages and told a complaining manager I'd be delighted to face disciplinary action for doing so. Nothing so far :Very Happy
postslippete
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Post by postslippete »

CharlesSpooner wrote:
23 Jan 2025, 12:08

You absolutely are allowed to use it. It's right there as an available option.

I've been doing so for ages and told a complaining manager I'd be delighted to face disciplinary action for doing so. Nothing so far :Very Happy
Often I've brought items back as "delivery not attempted" and my phone records conversations which I could later use against managers when they have instead instructed me to prioritise the parcels over the letters. We are not one of the USO trial offices and regardless of the overtime ban we are still legally obliged to deliver letters to every address 6 days a week, whereas the parcels are 5 days a week. That was a condition of RM's privatisation and only at busy times such as Xmas is it logistically necessary to clear the parcels first. I'm sure our manager wouldn't like me to report anything to his bosses. :whistle
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Post by Newandscared »

POSTMAN wrote:
08 Jan 2025, 14:33
This is going on in an office near me, anyone else?
Was in the news also the other day...

Royal Mail postal workers 'told by higher-ups to fake deliveries so bosses could keep their bonuses'
Yes it happens in my office. Directly told to do it and I have it in writing.
Something else that bugs me and means I don't get everything delivered is people addressing their parcels with House names or numbers but then entire streets where they've taken them off for some reason.....you then go both ways down the street to look for a number to work from. Round here the houses are also not always in the right order, but there's no option in the PDA menu to say why the address is incomplete etc. Perhaps if we had a comments box for" inaccesible becuase my boss said so, incorrect address no house number or name on house, inaccesible your gate is locked and you don't have a safe place etc....
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Post by Barnacle »

Newandscared wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 08:12
POSTMAN wrote:
08 Jan 2025, 14:33
This is going on in an office near me, anyone else?
Was in the news also the other day...

Royal Mail postal workers 'told by higher-ups to fake deliveries so bosses could keep their bonuses'
Yes it happens in my office. Directly told to do it and I have it in writing.
Something else that bugs me and means I don't get everything delivered is people addressing their parcels with House names or numbers but then entire streets where they've taken them off for some reason.....you then go both ways down the street to look for a number to work from. Round here the houses are also not always in the right order, but there's no option in the PDA menu to say why the address is incomplete etc. Perhaps if we had a comments box for" inaccesible becuase my boss said so, incorrect address no house number or name on house, inaccesible your gate is locked and you don't have a safe place etc....
The PDA used to have options under the heading of ‘Inaccessible’, so you could select roadworks or police activity etc. Why they removed these more detailed options is a mystery.
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Re: Scan as inaccessible Parcels you don't have time to deliver!

Post by Newandscared »

Barnacle wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 08:23
Newandscared wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 08:12
POSTMAN wrote:
08 Jan 2025, 14:33
This is going on in an office near me, anyone else?
Was in the news also the other day...

Royal Mail postal workers 'told by higher-ups to fake deliveries so bosses could keep their bonuses'
Yes it happens in my office. Directly told to do it and I have it in writing.
Something else that bugs me and means I don't get everything delivered is people addressing their parcels with House names or numbers but then entire streets where they've taken them off for some reason.....you then go both ways down the street to look for a number to work from. Round here the houses are also not always in the right order, but there's no option in the PDA menu to say why the address is incomplete etc. Perhaps if we had a comments box for" inaccesible becuase my boss said so, incorrect address no house number or name on house, inaccesible your gate is locked and you don't have a safe place etc....
The PDA used to have options under the heading of ‘Inaccessible’, so you could select roadworks or police activity etc. Why they removed these more detailed options is a mystery.
I've started taking a sharpie with me and writing on the parcel why it was inaccessible....ie if the property gate is locked and no safe place. If they have a small post box I put it on the delivery card
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Newandscared wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 08:26
Barnacle wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 08:23
Newandscared wrote:
24 Jan 2025, 08:12
POSTMAN wrote:
08 Jan 2025, 14:33
This is going on in an office near me, anyone else?
Was in the news also the other day...

Royal Mail postal workers 'told by higher-ups to fake deliveries so bosses could keep their bonuses'
Yes it happens in my office. Directly told to do it and I have it in writing.
Something else that bugs me and means I don't get everything delivered is people addressing their parcels with House names or numbers but then entire streets where they've taken them off for some reason.....you then go both ways down the street to look for a number to work from. Round here the houses are also not always in the right order, but there's no option in the PDA menu to say why the address is incomplete etc. Perhaps if we had a comments box for" inaccesible becuase my boss said so, incorrect address no house number or name on house, inaccesible your gate is locked and you don't have a safe place etc....
The PDA used to have options under the heading of ‘Inaccessible’, so you could select roadworks or police activity etc. Why they removed these more detailed options is a mystery.
I've started taking a sharpie with me and writing on the parcel why it was inaccessible....ie if the property gate is locked and no safe place. If they have a small post box I put it on the delivery card
That sounds like "no answer" rather than inaccessible if you could fit a 739 in the small post box?
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Post by Fannybaws »

POSTMAN wrote:
08 Jan 2025, 14:33
This is going on in an office near me, anyone else?
Was in the news also the other day...

Royal Mail postal workers 'told by higher-ups to fake deliveries so bosses could keep their bonuses'
Happened to me a couple of times last year. Customer services, and the office, denied it even though the tracking history had the office scan it as ready to go out on delivery then 10 minutes later scanned it as attempted delivery and no access. I was in the house on a day off so damn well knew they were lying.