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5 days a week letters

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
ANDREW CROCOMBE
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by ANDREW CROCOMBE »

3 day 5 day makes no difference, think the shortage of staff will cripple this mob. If they continue with agency then best of luck, if thats what they want. A job unattractive to new starts shows the progress made since sell off. Clever.
Valentina@1
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by Valentina@1 »

Jefferson Starfish wrote:
14 Dec 2023, 04:20
postslippete wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 18:06
Valentina@1 wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:53


I’m 50 & done 30 years service,obviously would want to leave with something to see me through for a bit.
But not sure if VR will be on table,tough decisions for Many will have to be made.

Sad times 🥲

The VR is not as good as it was though. 9 months pay and a one-off payment. Sad times indeed.
Just 9 months pay, I think.
Union have stood by and let them cut everything,I can’t actually believe what’s happening,feel sick to stomach 🥲
sweepster70
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by sweepster70 »

Whereupon Uber-isation will be the only way they can resource at short notice and low cost. The days when we had old-timers on standby to cover the odd cut-off bag, remaining specials, or rarely a whole unmanned walk are now remembered as the apex of imperial extravagance.
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Absolutely love this post, especially the end part. As we know anything to do with imperialism is frowned upon by the new breeds.
postslippete
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by postslippete »

Valentina@1 wrote:
14 Dec 2023, 10:26

Union have stood by and let them cut everything,I can’t actually believe what’s happening,feel sick to stomach 🥲


According to Dave Ward in the recent video over the 2 senior board members leaving, he did say that the Union had an agreement with RM to addressing the quality of service issues but after that particular live episode was shown apparently Grant McPherson went back on his word and said he couldn't implement it?

Can't really blame the Union for that. But I'm intrigued as to how Dave Ward believes that a 5 day USO will improve quality of service when RM are currently failing a 6 day USO. Imho RM are viewing it as a cost cutting measure but to maintain the quality of service you would expect that duties would need to be put in to allow for 6 days worth of mail to be done in 5?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Foxel
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by Foxel »

postslippete wrote:
14 Dec 2023, 16:41

But I'm intrigued as to how Dave Ward believes that a 5 day USO will improve quality of service when RM are currently failing a 6 day USO.
By default, they will fail one less day.
I'm turning purple!
mwalker88
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by mwalker88 »

Foxel wrote:
14 Dec 2023, 17:41
By default, they will fail one less day.
Very true, but surely there should be massive fines every day/week for the failure to the paying customers.

The USO was still a public service last time I checked.
Jb1969
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by Jb1969 »

Foxel wrote:
14 Dec 2023, 17:41
postslippete wrote:
14 Dec 2023, 16:41

But I'm intrigued as to how Dave Ward believes that a 5 day USO will improve quality of service when RM are currently failing a 6 day USO.
By default, they will fail one less day.
They were fined the maximum amount.
In any case the fine versus the amount they are saving by ignoring the USO is tiny.
It’s a win/win for RM
Why would RM change direction, more hours will be taken, more delivery points added, quality will go down.
Cash is king in privation.
Blue Moses
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by Blue Moses »

Mr Rush wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 23:55
scotchy1962 wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:23
By this stage with another 20/30k out the door they will suddenly realise they haven't enough left to cover the 7 day parcels.
Whereupon Uber-isation will be the only way they can resource at short notice and low cost. The days when we had old-timers on standby to cover the odd cut-off bag, remaining specials, or rarely a whole unmanned walk are now remembered as the apex of imperial extravagance.
great comment fella
postslippete
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by postslippete »

Jb1969 wrote:
15 Dec 2023, 10:10

They were fined the maximum amount.
In any case the fine versus the amount they are saving by ignoring the USO is tiny.
It’s a win/win for RM
Why would RM change direction, more hours will be taken, more delivery points added, quality will go down.
Cash is king in privation.

Scrapping Saturday letter deliveries could potentially save RM up to £250 million - higher than previous estimates of £125-225 million that were made by OfCom in 2020. So, yeah, a fine by OfCom of £5.6 million is what 2% of this?? It's peanuts and the main reason why the company are continuing to keep failing letters.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.