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5 days a week letters

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Rommagic
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5 days a week letters

Post by Rommagic »

If the uso is changed too five days letters but seven days parcels how many jobs lost?.Can’t work it out as about 15,000 have gone this past year.

A job is six days a week so one day letters gone per week how many jobs?.
chickenwittle
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by chickenwittle »

Won’t be happening any time soon , needs a change of legislation which will not be forthcoming until after the general election late next year , so 2025 at the earliest in my opinion and that’s being optimistic.
Rommagic
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by Rommagic »

Chicken thanks for your reply how many jobs you think in 2025 maybe lost?.
scotchy1962
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by scotchy1962 »

You will hear lots of rumours of when we will go down to 5 day delivery, followed by 3 day etc etc... but truthfully who knows when it will/could happen, even if it needs a law change to get it legally i am sure there are all sorts of ways to get what they want, especially if they are losing as much as they say they are.
As to how many posties would lose their job... i fancy very few, any voluntary pay offs will be grabbed like gold-dust by anyone who can get it.
By this stage with another 20/30k out the door they will suddenly realise they haven't enough left to cover the 7 day parcels.
Rommagic
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Re: 5 days a week letters

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scotchy1962 wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:23
You will hear lots of rumours of when we will go down to 5 day delivery, followed by 3 day etc etc... but truthfully who knows when it will/could happen, even if it needs a law change to get it legally i am sure there are all sorts of ways to get what they want, especially if they are losing as much as they say they are.
As to how many posties would lose their job... i fancy very few, any voluntary pay offs will be grabbed like gold-dust by anyone who can get it.
By this stage with another 20/30k out the door they will suddenly realise they haven't enough left to cover the 7 day parcels.

OK.
iHateD2Ds
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by iHateD2Ds »

I imagine whatever the number they will me more volunteers that wish to be made redundant than actual.
yubin282
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by yubin282 »

No job losses, we got no staff to begin with.
mwalker88
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Re: 5 days a week letters

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iHateD2Ds wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:31
I imagine whatever the number they will me more volunteers that wish to be made redundant than actual.
I will say to the people wanting to leave, yous should be applying for jobs now. Hanging on for VR is doing yourself no favours.
postslippete
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by postslippete »

It's difficult to speculate on the numbers of jobs that might be lost if we have a 5 day USO. There's no doubt that RM obviously see a reduced USO as a way of reducing head-counts and costs further but we are currently failing the USO now on a 6 day week. That would imply that we actually need more staff, not less. However, If RM keep pushing up the price of postage and making delivering letters unattractive then that might not be the case.

But overall employee numbers are not significant. Whilst thousands of full-time workers have left the business in the last few years, RM are creating many new jobs - but they are mainly part-time or Sunday workers. So whilst there could be a similar number of staff in the future, the business would still make savings by having staff employed on less hours as well different terms and conditions.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Valentina@1
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by Valentina@1 »

mwalker88 wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:46
iHateD2Ds wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:31
I imagine whatever the number they will me more volunteers that wish to be made redundant than actual.
I will say to the people wanting to leave, yous should be applying for jobs now. Hanging on for VR is doing yourself no favours.
I’m 50 & done 30 years service,obviously would want to leave with something to see me through for a bit.
But not sure if VR will be on table,tough decisions for Many will have to be made.

Sad times 🥲
mwalker88
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by mwalker88 »

Valentina@1 wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:53
mwalker88 wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:46
iHateD2Ds wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:31
I imagine whatever the number they will me more volunteers that wish to be made redundant than actual.
I will say to the people wanting to leave, yous should be applying for jobs now. Hanging on for VR is doing yourself no favours.
I’m 50 & done 30 years service,obviously would want to leave with something to see me through for a bit.
But not sure if VR will be on table,tough decisions for Many will have to be made.

Sad times 🥲
That seems to be the problem at RM now, ever since the phantom shares rip-off.

I remember folk taking VR back in the day and cashing in their original "phantom shares"

The rest of us got nothing.
postslippete
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Re: 5 days a week letters

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Valentina@1 wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:53


I’m 50 & done 30 years service,obviously would want to leave with something to see me through for a bit.
But not sure if VR will be on table,tough decisions for Many will have to be made.

Sad times 🥲

The VR is not as good as it was though. 9 months pay and a one-off payment. Sad times indeed.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
qwerty2
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by qwerty2 »

RM can’t get the mail delivered over 6 days never mind 5
Plus how many will be gone by April - later starts and finishes?
Even the big-wigs(useless gits) are deserting a sinking ship
Mr Rush
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by Mr Rush »

scotchy1962 wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:23
By this stage with another 20/30k out the door they will suddenly realise they haven't enough left to cover the 7 day parcels.
Whereupon Uber-isation will be the only way they can resource at short notice and low cost. The days when we had old-timers on standby to cover the odd cut-off bag, remaining specials, or rarely a whole unmanned walk are now remembered as the apex of imperial extravagance.
The machine stops.
Jefferson Starfish
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Re: 5 days a week letters

Post by Jefferson Starfish »

postslippete wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 18:06
Valentina@1 wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 17:53


I’m 50 & done 30 years service,obviously would want to leave with something to see me through for a bit.
But not sure if VR will be on table,tough decisions for Many will have to be made.

Sad times 🥲

The VR is not as good as it was though. 9 months pay and a one-off payment. Sad times indeed.
Just 9 months pay, I think.