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Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

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A2B
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by A2B »

I wonder if SISO will finally be linked with pay from next week :whistle

I would also expect the pettiness level from COM/DOM will go up a couple of notches :d'oh!
ted_e_bear
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by ted_e_bear »

LouBarlow wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 18:19
enskied wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 16:39
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 14:39
Something else made up by the OP who has form for doing this on other occasions.
He has "Form"

So do you, as many of us are well aware.
The ignore button keeps failing you huh? Why do you always have to derail threads with your stalker nonsense?
Oh come on, between you all please don't spoil yet another thread, can you all not bother commenting if it's just to have a jab at someone else FFS.
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by thefox »

ted_e_bear wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 18:38
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 18:19
enskied wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 16:39
LouBarlow wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 14:39
Something else made up by the OP who has form for doing this on other occasions.
He has "Form"

So do you, as many of us are well aware.
The ignore button keeps failing you huh? Why do you always have to derail threads with your stalker nonsense?
Oh come on, between you all please don't spoil yet another thread, can you all not bother commenting if it's just to have a jab at someone else FFS.
Or they could maybe just get a room and get rid of some of the tension ❤️
worktotime
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by worktotime »

so are they using SISO for wages now as it reads that way ?
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by pieoftheday »

worktotime wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 19:20
so are they using SISO for wages now as it reads that way ?
Do you mean are RM going to doc pay if you get finished early etc? Where has this come from?
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by Woody Guthrie »

I always said this was a blunt tool and would not resolve the issue of balancing seasonal variations in workload.

A far more elegant solution would be to allow us to bank hours when we needed to and use them when we wanted to but that would require a level of trust and flexibility that this business is clearly incapable of.

The reason we will never agree to this far more acceptable solution for both parties lies squarely at the feet of local management.

You just can't trust them.
Only dead fish follow the current
HTPostman
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by HTPostman »

Those of us on 4 day weeks have still yet to be told our start times. 28 ish hours, does that make us part time or full time? Full timers start 24 minutes a day, part timers 10 minutes but which do we fall into? And then there’s the fact it’s apparently limited to 30 minutes a week for PT so if we do fall into PT then do we just do 7.5 minutes a day?!

HR can’t help and have directed us to the manager. Manager off sick. Union rep off sick. Area rep away on holiday.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by worktotime »

pieoftheday wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 19:30
worktotime wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 19:20
so are they using SISO for wages now as it reads that way ?
Do you mean are RM going to doc pay if you get finished early etc? Where has this come from?
finishing early doesnt affect me :thumbup , but reading this from baulch saying siso and would effect members pay ? f***ing hell they will be some arses twitching it they do .
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by hans solo »

Just do what RM management do
Make it up as you go along
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by Woody Guthrie »

HTPostman wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 19:36
Those of us on 4 day weeks have still yet to be told our start times. 28 ish hours, does that make us part time or full time? Full timers start 24 minutes a day, part timers 10 minutes but which do we fall into? And then there’s the fact it’s apparently limited to 30 minutes a week for PT so if we do fall into PT then do we just do 7.5 minutes a day?!

HR can’t help and have directed us to the manager. Manager off sick. Union rep off sick. Area rep away on holiday.
Anything under 35hrs is part-time and therefore 10 mins.
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A2B
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by A2B »

pieoftheday wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 19:30
worktotime wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 19:20
so are they using SISO for wages now as it reads that way ?
Do you mean are RM going to doc pay if you get finished early etc? Where has this come from?
Isn't that the whole point of SISO? RM just aren't using it at the moment but it's surely coming soon
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by Woody Guthrie »

HTPostman wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 19:36
Those of us on 4 day weeks have still yet to be told our start times. 28 ish hours, does that make us part time or full time? Full timers start 24 minutes a day, part timers 10 minutes but which do we fall into? And then there’s the fact it’s apparently limited to 30 minutes a week for PT so if we do fall into PT then do we just do 7.5 minutes a day?!

HR can’t help and have directed us to the manager. Manager off sick. Union rep off sick. Area rep away on holiday.
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

HTPostman wrote:
29 Aug 2023, 19:36
Those of us on 4 day weeks have still yet to be told our start times. 28 ish hours, does that make us part time or full time? Full timers start 24 minutes a day, part timers 10 minutes but which do we fall into? And then there’s the fact it’s apparently limited to 30 minutes a week for PT so if we do fall into PT then do we just do 7.5 minutes a day?!

HR can’t help and have directed us to the manager. Manager off sick. Union rep off sick. Area rep away on holiday.
Royal Mail are contradicting themselves in the correspondence they sent out. You are considered part time so it should be 10 minutes, however in the faq sent out to their managers it says people who work full time hours on the days they are in should also do 24 minutes. The whole thing is a mess.

Edit just seen Woodys post, they must have corrected the contradiction.
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by Jb1969 »

A billion pound company making it up as they go along!
Does not exactly inspire confidence in what’s to come.
barrychuckle
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Re: Seasonal hours suspended Update-"To start 4th of September"

Post by barrychuckle »

For part timers who do a full time shift it is 24 minutes. The faq’s sheet has since been updated and I think it’s question number 42 which answers this issue.