Jen1 wrote: ↑18 Aug 2023, 22:27I like to have a warm up before I unleash my full criticism of how the CWU have helped cause the issues I face on a daily basis
And how now they’re championing a 5 day uso that, after speaking with my manager, means I will either have to work on parcels from 13.30- 18.30 which I can’t do so they’re actively championing something that’ll cost me my job
So I’m slightly disappointed with our Union but do feel a bit better after having a little vent on here
So if you don’t mind could you just piss off and leave me too it? Thanks
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Update From CWU
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thefox
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Nickvilla20
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I don’t think they have a real plan if they did they would utilise the very experienced workforce to provide a good and profitable service.Jb1969 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 10:10They are unable to keep new staff on the inferior contracts.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 07:53That is their end game no doubt about that if you make letters 5 days then you can fill the weekends with a workforce on inferior terms.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 07:44RM won't want any of us on deliveries. They'll want newbies on the inferior contracts and casualspinstripe wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 02:49The point she made makes clear that she already had a duty that was suitable, there was nothing to be sorted, but following the capitulation of the union, RM are bulldozing their way towards their version of utopia at increased pace. You’ll be able to witness this first hand when you’re redeployed onto deliveries in the near future
Most are choosing to remain on Agency books.
Those that are employed do not hang around for long.
So if you think RM’s “great plan” is working you would be wrong.
The CWU are not entirely right either, but are probably waiting for the s**t show that will occur some time in the future.
Profit is king, even with the failure of the USO the shareholders & board will recieve their bonuses/dividends.
It seems the people at the top have made some awful financial decisions like building super hubs they didn’t need and very expensive electric vans.
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aiden01
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I had a duty for 20years that suited me an lost itpinstripe wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 02:49The point she made makes clear that she already had a duty that was suitable, there was nothing to be sorted, but following the capitulation of the union, RM are bulldozing their way towards their version of utopia at increased pace. You’ll be able to witness this first hand when you’re redeployed onto deliveries in the near future
things are changing so either tough it out or leave.can guarantee you 100% ile not be on delivery anytime.
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Jb1969
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But that would have to involve the union & specifically Union Reps.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 10:31I don’t think they have a real plan if they did they would utilise the very experienced workforce to provide a good and profitable service.Jb1969 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 10:10They are unable to keep new staff on the inferior contracts.Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 07:53That is their end game no doubt about that if you make letters 5 days then you can fill the weekends with a workforce on inferior terms.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 07:44RM won't want any of us on deliveries. They'll want newbies on the inferior contracts and casualspinstripe wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 02:49The point she made makes clear that she already had a duty that was suitable, there was nothing to be sorted, but following the capitulation of the union, RM are bulldozing their way towards their version of utopia at increased pace. You’ll be able to witness this first hand when you’re redeployed onto deliveries in the near future
Most are choosing to remain on Agency books.
Those that are employed do not hang around for long.
So if you think RM’s “great plan” is working you would be wrong.
The CWU are not entirely right either, but are probably waiting for the s**t show that will occur some time in the future.
Profit is king, even with the failure of the USO the shareholders & board will recieve their bonuses/dividends.
It seems the people at the top have made some awful financial decisions like building super hubs they didn’t need and very expensive electric vans.
The experience lays with those Reps & not with Managers who have never done a delivery in their life!
It will get a lot worse, RM’s plan is to wreck the work force & build it up again on inferior terms.
Only the plan is not going to plan!!!
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Nickvilla20
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I agree their plan isn’t working.Jb1969 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 17:52
But that would have to involve the union & specifically Union Reps.
The experience lays with those Reps & not with Managers who have never done a delivery in their life!
It will get a lot worse, RM’s plan is to wreck the work force & build it up again on inferior terms.
Only the plan is not going to plan!!!
I’m not sure who is the head of recruitment but lowering pay and the terms and conditions for new starters when you already have a recruitment problem is a very stupid move.
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Binsey
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I believe one of the CWU negotiators came out of the meeting and said “ Royal Mail is in total chaos and is staggeringly toxic”.
But we all know that….
But we all know that….
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DirtyHarry
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Re: Update From CWU
Jen1 wrote: ↑18 Aug 2023, 22:27I like to have a warm up before I unleash my full criticism of how the CWU have helped cause the issues I face on a daily basis
And how now they’re championing a 5 day uso that, after speaking with my manager, means I will either have to work on parcels from 13.30- 18.30 which I can’t do so they’re actively championing something that’ll cost me my job
So I’m slightly disappointed with our Union but do feel a bit better after having a little vent on here
So if you don’t mind could you just piss off and leave me too it? Thanks
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Foxel
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We were thinking it, you said it.Jen1 wrote: ↑18 Aug 2023, 22:27I like to have a warm up before I unleash my full criticism of how the CWU have helped cause the issues I face on a daily basis
And how now they’re championing a 5 day uso that, after speaking with my manager, means I will either have to work on parcels from 13.30- 18.30 which I can’t do so they’re actively championing something that’ll cost me my job
So I’m slightly disappointed with our Union but do feel a bit better after having a little vent on here
So if you don’t mind could you just piss off and leave me too it? Thanks
I'm turning purple!
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Mr Rush
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Lord Faulkner will get to the bottom of who ate all the biscuits.
The machine stops.
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scoobydo79
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Well put and spot onpinstripe wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 02:49The point she made makes clear that she already had a duty that was suitable, there was nothing to be sorted, but following the capitulation of the union, RM are bulldozing their way towards their version of utopia at increased pace. You’ll be able to witness this first hand when you’re redeployed onto deliveries in the near future
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scoobydo79
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Absolutely. In my area the large pool of Eastern Europeans keen to be postman has disappeared alsoNickvilla20 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 18:54I agree their plan isn’t working.Jb1969 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 17:52
But that would have to involve the union & specifically Union Reps.
The experience lays with those Reps & not with Managers who have never done a delivery in their life!
It will get a lot worse, RM’s plan is to wreck the work force & build it up again on inferior terms.
Only the plan is not going to plan!!!
I’m not sure who is the head of recruitment but lowering pay and the terms and conditions for new starters when you already have a recruitment problem is a very stupid move.
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Kenfandango
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In our DO newbies are being asked to start on contracts that are wednesday-sunday, so far no takers so they're throwing money at agency still to replace the many, many drivers they allowed to leave (seriously, if you've got- for example -100 duties where one half is done by someone who doesn't drive, why would you let 15 of your driver's go without trying to replace them?! The few "new" people we have are all stuck on afternoon LAT routes which doesn't help, mainly taking the tracked for the duties that have to share reserve drivers)scoobydo79 wrote: ↑21 Aug 2023, 18:35Absolutely. In my area the large pool of Eastern Europeans keen to be postman has disappeared alsoNickvilla20 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 18:54I agree their plan isn’t working.Jb1969 wrote: ↑19 Aug 2023, 17:52
But that would have to involve the union & specifically Union Reps.
The experience lays with those Reps & not with Managers who have never done a delivery in their life!
It will get a lot worse, RM’s plan is to wreck the work force & build it up again on inferior terms.
Only the plan is not going to plan!!!
I’m not sure who is the head of recruitment but lowering pay and the terms and conditions for new starters when you already have a recruitment problem is a very stupid move.
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enskied
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Who are the CWU now?
Reform is needed, this so called Union has sat on its fat arse for 20 years
Reform is needed, this so called Union has sat on its fat arse for 20 years
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aiden01
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CarryingMGMT
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Good luck, RM is a shady business now.