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Update From CWU

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thefox
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by thefox »

Jen1 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 22:27
aiden01 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 21:57
Jen1 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 21:47
So basically it’s a thank you from the CWU for giving up your terms and conditions so they can still get paid to drink tea and eat biscuits and work out how to vaguely word it so it sounds like they’re doing something to earn the money we pay them
No matter what they do they will be criticised why not wait an see the offical announcement.
I like to have a warm up before I unleash my full criticism of how the CWU have helped cause the issues I face on a daily basis

And how now they’re championing a 5 day uso that, after speaking with my manager, means I will either have to work on parcels from 13.30- 18.30 which I can’t do so they’re actively championing something that’ll cost me my job

So I’m slightly disappointed with our Union but do feel a bit better after having a little vent on here

So if you don’t mind could you just piss off and leave me too it? Thanks
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nickvilla20
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by Nickvilla20 »

Jb1969 wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 10:10
Nickvilla20 wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 07:53
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 07:44
pinstripe wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 02:49
aiden01 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 23:27

so you expect rm or cwu to sort duties just for you.things are changing wether we like it or not.
The point she made makes clear that she already had a duty that was suitable, there was nothing to be sorted, but following the capitulation of the union, RM are bulldozing their way towards their version of utopia at increased pace. You’ll be able to witness this first hand when you’re redeployed onto deliveries in the near future
RM won't want any of us on deliveries. They'll want newbies on the inferior contracts and casuals
That is their end game no doubt about that if you make letters 5 days then you can fill the weekends with a workforce on inferior terms.
They are unable to keep new staff on the inferior contracts.
Most are choosing to remain on Agency books.
Those that are employed do not hang around for long.
So if you think RM’s “great plan” is working you would be wrong.
The CWU are not entirely right either, but are probably waiting for the s**t show that will occur some time in the future.
Profit is king, even with the failure of the USO the shareholders & board will recieve their bonuses/dividends.
I don’t think they have a real plan if they did they would utilise the very experienced workforce to provide a good and profitable service.

It seems the people at the top have made some awful financial decisions like building super hubs they didn’t need and very expensive electric vans.
aiden01
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by aiden01 »

pinstripe wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 02:49
aiden01 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 23:27

so you expect rm or cwu to sort duties just for you.things are changing wether we like it or not.
The point she made makes clear that she already had a duty that was suitable, there was nothing to be sorted, but following the capitulation of the union, RM are bulldozing their way towards their version of utopia at increased pace. You’ll be able to witness this first hand when you’re redeployed onto deliveries in the near future
I had a duty for 20years that suited me an lost it
things are changing so either tough it out or leave.can guarantee you 100% ile not be on delivery anytime.
Jb1969
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by Jb1969 »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 10:31
Jb1969 wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 10:10
Nickvilla20 wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 07:53
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 07:44
pinstripe wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 02:49
aiden01 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 23:27

so you expect rm or cwu to sort duties just for you.things are changing wether we like it or not.
The point she made makes clear that she already had a duty that was suitable, there was nothing to be sorted, but following the capitulation of the union, RM are bulldozing their way towards their version of utopia at increased pace. You’ll be able to witness this first hand when you’re redeployed onto deliveries in the near future
RM won't want any of us on deliveries. They'll want newbies on the inferior contracts and casuals
That is their end game no doubt about that if you make letters 5 days then you can fill the weekends with a workforce on inferior terms.
They are unable to keep new staff on the inferior contracts.
Most are choosing to remain on Agency books.
Those that are employed do not hang around for long.
So if you think RM’s “great plan” is working you would be wrong.
The CWU are not entirely right either, but are probably waiting for the s**t show that will occur some time in the future.
Profit is king, even with the failure of the USO the shareholders & board will recieve their bonuses/dividends.
I don’t think they have a real plan if they did they would utilise the very experienced workforce to provide a good and profitable service.

It seems the people at the top have made some awful financial decisions like building super hubs they didn’t need and very expensive electric vans.
But that would have to involve the union & specifically Union Reps.
The experience lays with those Reps & not with Managers who have never done a delivery in their life!
It will get a lot worse, RM’s plan is to wreck the work force & build it up again on inferior terms.
Only the plan is not going to plan!!!
Nickvilla20
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by Nickvilla20 »

Jb1969 wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 17:52

But that would have to involve the union & specifically Union Reps.
The experience lays with those Reps & not with Managers who have never done a delivery in their life!
It will get a lot worse, RM’s plan is to wreck the work force & build it up again on inferior terms.
Only the plan is not going to plan!!!
I agree their plan isn’t working.

I’m not sure who is the head of recruitment but lowering pay and the terms and conditions for new starters when you already have a recruitment problem is a very stupid move.
Binsey
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by Binsey »

I believe one of the CWU negotiators came out of the meeting and said “ Royal Mail is in total chaos and is staggeringly toxic”.

But we all know that….
DirtyHarry
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by DirtyHarry »

Jen1 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 22:27
aiden01 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 21:57
Jen1 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 21:47
So basically it’s a thank you from the CWU for giving up your terms and conditions so they can still get paid to drink tea and eat biscuits and work out how to vaguely word it so it sounds like they’re doing something to earn the money we pay them
No matter what they do they will be criticised why not wait an see the offical announcement.
I like to have a warm up before I unleash my full criticism of how the CWU have helped cause the issues I face on a daily basis

And how now they’re championing a 5 day uso that, after speaking with my manager, means I will either have to work on parcels from 13.30- 18.30 which I can’t do so they’re actively championing something that’ll cost me my job

So I’m slightly disappointed with our Union but do feel a bit better after having a little vent on here

So if you don’t mind could you just piss off and leave me too it? Thanks
:Applause :Applause :Applause
Foxel
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 514
Joined: 04 Oct 2021, 21:20
Gender: Male

Re: Update From CWU

Post by Foxel »

Jen1 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 22:27
I like to have a warm up before I unleash my full criticism of how the CWU have helped cause the issues I face on a daily basis

And how now they’re championing a 5 day uso that, after speaking with my manager, means I will either have to work on parcels from 13.30- 18.30 which I can’t do so they’re actively championing something that’ll cost me my job

So I’m slightly disappointed with our Union but do feel a bit better after having a little vent on here

So if you don’t mind could you just piss off and leave me too it? Thanks
We were thinking it, you said it. :Applause
I'm turning purple!
Mr Rush
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by Mr Rush »

Binsey wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 19:34
I believe one of the CWU negotiators came out of the meeting and said “ Royal Mail is in total chaos and is staggeringly toxic”.

But we all know that….
Lord Faulkner will get to the bottom of who ate all the biscuits.
The machine stops.
scoobydo79
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Joined: 15 May 2011, 19:04
Gender: Male

Re: Update From CWU

Post by scoobydo79 »

pinstripe wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 02:49
aiden01 wrote:
18 Aug 2023, 23:27

so you expect rm or cwu to sort duties just for you.things are changing wether we like it or not.
The point she made makes clear that she already had a duty that was suitable, there was nothing to be sorted, but following the capitulation of the union, RM are bulldozing their way towards their version of utopia at increased pace. You’ll be able to witness this first hand when you’re redeployed onto deliveries in the near future
Well put and spot on
scoobydo79
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by scoobydo79 »

Nickvilla20 wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 18:54
Jb1969 wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 17:52

But that would have to involve the union & specifically Union Reps.
The experience lays with those Reps & not with Managers who have never done a delivery in their life!
It will get a lot worse, RM’s plan is to wreck the work force & build it up again on inferior terms.
Only the plan is not going to plan!!!
I agree their plan isn’t working.

I’m not sure who is the head of recruitment but lowering pay and the terms and conditions for new starters when you already have a recruitment problem is a very stupid move.
Absolutely. In my area the large pool of Eastern Europeans keen to be postman has disappeared also
Kenfandango
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Joined: 19 Oct 2021, 16:40
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by Kenfandango »

scoobydo79 wrote:
21 Aug 2023, 18:35
Nickvilla20 wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 18:54
Jb1969 wrote:
19 Aug 2023, 17:52

But that would have to involve the union & specifically Union Reps.
The experience lays with those Reps & not with Managers who have never done a delivery in their life!
It will get a lot worse, RM’s plan is to wreck the work force & build it up again on inferior terms.
Only the plan is not going to plan!!!
I agree their plan isn’t working.

I’m not sure who is the head of recruitment but lowering pay and the terms and conditions for new starters when you already have a recruitment problem is a very stupid move.
Absolutely. In my area the large pool of Eastern Europeans keen to be postman has disappeared also
In our DO newbies are being asked to start on contracts that are wednesday-sunday, so far no takers so they're throwing money at agency still to replace the many, many drivers they allowed to leave (seriously, if you've got- for example -100 duties where one half is done by someone who doesn't drive, why would you let 15 of your driver's go without trying to replace them?! The few "new" people we have are all stuck on afternoon LAT routes which doesn't help, mainly taking the tracked for the duties that have to share reserve drivers)
enskied
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by enskied »

Who are the CWU now?
Reform is needed, this so called Union has sat on its fat arse for 20 years
aiden01
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Joined: 27 Feb 2013, 21:43
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by aiden01 »

enskied wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 21:34
Who are the CWU now?
Reform is needed, this so called Union has sat on its fat arse for 20 years
Leave it then an if you already have stop moaning fs
CarryingMGMT
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 310
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Re: Update From CWU

Post by CarryingMGMT »

:nana aidan is a troll :silenced

Good luck, RM is a shady business now.