The deal : Business Recovery, Transformation and Growth Agreement

[aiden01]

The annualised hours and flexibility agreement is an absolute mess and will only be abused by managers ,this part of the agreement will be an absolute nightmare to work with not just for bosses but posties too ,does mail centre workers have the 30 min flexi too,this part alone is worth a big fat NO VOTE !!!!!, it never worked in 2007 ,CWU what the hell are you playing at agreeing to this .

Why would mc workers be different we also had the last flexi agreement never been asked and answer would be no.

[aiden01]

WOW 8 posts and arthur Scargill has reincarnated himself he must be one of these socialist worker collective postal workers united. Done with the strikes the deal is there vote YES or NO not telling anyone how to vote the details of the deal is and will effect everyone differently. The choice is yours and yours alone but for me the war is over!

Surprised at you mate but agree with you its over.

Still a s**t deal but it's the only one we are going to get and we could strike to Christmas everyday from now and it would not change a thing. Except we would not have a job or any agreements just agency staff doing our jobs!

That is exact reason as you have stated that i agree with you.

[k979aaa]

The annualised hours and flexibility agreement is an absolute mess and will only be abused by managers ,this part of the agreement will be an absolute nightmare to work with not just for bosses but posties too ,does mail centre workers have the 30 min flexi too,this part alone is worth a big fat NO VOTE !!!!!, it never worked in 2007 ,CWU what the hell are you playing at agreeing to this .

Why would mc workers be different we also had the last flexi agreement never been asked and answer would be no.

Thing is the flex is or has been there before like swings and roundabouts they call it in delivery but you don't have to do it. Come up with a good reason and you never get asked again I know been asked and gave a reasonable excuse. We all know the agreement is online now familiarize yourselves with it word for word and use that agreement for this is what agreements are for exercising your rights!

[twoloops]

This big fat NO from me & listening to the floor & most of my office


There is also a commitment on both sides to reopen talks over pushing starting and last delivery times back even further, with discussions due to restart in March 2024.

[HappyGuy]

Lets all vote NO. Then we can go on strike again for another 12 months and lose another £2k
Meanwhile the changes are implemented and life goes on.

[daveyeff]

35 hour week means 10 minute less meal break.

7 hours gets you 40 mins break. 5x7 is 35 so no, you will still get 40 mins.

[clashcityrocker]

A 40 minute break is after 7h 01 minutes.
A 7 h day is a 30 minute break.

[daveyeff]

i stand corrected then

[claretandblue]

A 40 minute break is after 7h 01 minutes.
A 7 h day is a 30 minute break.

We do 6hr 48 on Tuesday and 7 hours on Saturday and still get 40 mins.

[clashcityrocker]

We do 6hr 48 on Tuesday and 7 hours on Saturday and still get 40 mins.

Lucky you.
You are breaking a national agreement.
Have a look at the Way Forward Agreement.

[daveyeff]

A 40 minute break is after 7h 01 minutes.
A 7 h day is a 30 minute break.

We do 6hr 48 on Tuesday and 7 hours on Saturday and still get 40 mins.

thats where i got mixed up. i was thinking of longs and shorts. so a 35 hr week could entail days below 7 hrs where it would reduce your breaks to 30 mins, and days over 7 hours that would give you 40min break, and still be on 35 hours a week, so its not a given that you lose all your 40 mins breaks on a 35 hr week. sorry, its been a long day, and the toon won 6-1 and im half pissed.

[claretandblue]

We do 6hr 48 on Tuesday and 7 hours on Saturday and still get 40 mins.

Lucky you.
You are breaking a national agreement.
Have a look at the Way Forward Agreement.

Even better we have 24 hours over 3 days part time staff who never work the 8 hours in a day.

[scooby]

Is it true about sick been SSP for 4 days and a year to clear stage warnings

[dumn & dumber]

sorry not been on "royalmailchat" for a long time. reading all the comments, it's definitely a NO vote from myself. why couldn't the CWU place notice on RM for strike dates on jan, feb and march of this year after our record breaking yes vote in December. the CWU should have kept the pressure on and shown we were serious, but sadly our union didn't have a strategy in place and were weak to do so. RM then were rubbing their hands thinking "we have broken them" and smiling all the way to the boardroom, putting in executive action, moving people off their duties and the reason for this was "THE NEEDS OF THE BUSINESS", and we can't say BOO, pretty rubbish.

[TopperGas]

sorry not been on "royalmailchat" for a long time. reading all the comments, it's definitely a NO vote from myself. why couldn't the CWU place notice on RM for strike dates on jan, feb and march of this year after our record breaking yes vote in December. the CWU should have kept the pressure on and shown we were serious, but sadly our union didn't have a strategy in place and were weak to do so. RM then were rubbing their hands thinking "we have broken them" and smiling all the way to the boardroom, putting in executive action, moving people off their duties and the reason for this was "THE NEEDS OF THE BUSINESS", and we can't say BOO, pretty rubbish.

The danger was at the time members wouldn't support the strikes after December's strikes seem to have so little effect on RM, it they weren't RM would have declared a victory if mail was being delivered during the strikes. the continuing train strikes don't seem to be having any noticeable effect and they all seemingly well supported.