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The weekend is over

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scotchy1962
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by scotchy1962 »

Patience is a virtue but even i think its been dragging on a bit too long for my liking.
I do hope they aren't just putting some lipstick on a sow and trying to tell us she's a looker, or to be pc some aftershave on a boar and telling us its the man of your dreams.
Just tell us what it is warts and all then nobody is under any illusions.
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Re: The weekend is over

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From a glance at Workplace, Ricky and Zareera are taking questions about the pay offer they have published to the union today. So from that or looks like neither of them have actually met up for further discussions if they are talking about the same deal.
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Re: The weekend is over

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Shadedpostie wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:17
From a glance at Workplace, Ricky and Zareera are taking questions about the pay offer they have published to the union today. So from that or looks like neither of them have actually met up for further discussions if they are talking about the same deal.
Is it the same deal?
redlen
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by redlen »

Put pink lipstick on a pig, is still a pig
Shadedpostie
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Re: The weekend is over

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RTP wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:22
Shadedpostie wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:17
From a glance at Workplace, Ricky and Zareera are taking questions about the pay offer they have published to the union today. So from that or looks like neither of them have actually met up for further discussions if they are talking about the same deal.
Is it the same deal?
Sounds like it, the gist of it is asking members for questions about the pay and change proposals with the CWU following last week. Should be posting a video later this week about it apparently.
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by Kenfandango »

As far as I can see the changes are costing them more in casual staff to cover the unmanageable workload... But I suppose they can only call them in once or twice a week, and don't need to pay them sick pay
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by stevejm »

scotchy1962 wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:03
Patience is a virtue but even i think its been dragging on a bit too long for my liking.
I do hope they aren't just putting some lipstick on a sow and trying to tell us she's a looker, or to be pc some aftershave on a boar and telling us its the man of your dreams.
Just tell us what it is warts and all then nobody is under any illusions.
I think you'll find it's lipstick and tights on a warthog - any which way you'd be mad to succumb to temptation.
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Re: The weekend is over

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Kenfandango wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:33
As far as I can see the changes are costing them more in casual staff to cover the unmanageable workload... But I suppose they can only call them in once or twice a week, and don't need to pay them sick pay
nor pensions

but on the other hand, instead of paying sick-pay and pensions they pay the inflated agency fee - I heard they pay the agency £20/hour - pertemps
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by k979aaa »

stevejm wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 17:00
Kenfandango wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:33
As far as I can see the changes are costing them more in casual staff to cover the unmanageable workload... But I suppose they can only call them in once or twice a week, and don't need to pay them sick pay
nor pensions

but on the other hand, instead of paying sick-pay and pensions they pay the inflated agency fee - I heard they pay the agency £20/hour - pertemps
Maybe they own them or have shares in them? More Than than one agency though!
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by daisy duck »

Ppat98 wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 15:38
Give the union some credit, they did make RM budge on their supposed "final offer". The Union have made a few mistakes but in general they've done more good than bad.
I suppose they did.move a bit.
We got an even worse deal than that what was offered at Christmas.🙄🤣
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by POSTPERSON50 »

There's no good resolution for us in this dispute.

Whatever gets dished up to us won't be the end of it all. They'll get what they want soon enough, be it this year or next year.

The job as we know it is dead in the water.
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Re: The weekend is over

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Shadedpostie wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:17
From a glance at Workplace, Ricky and Zareera are taking questions about the pay offer they have published to the union today. So from that or looks like neither of them have actually met up for further discussions if they are talking about the same deal.
I thought RM had walked away from discussing that offer assuming it's the one they published last week? Why don't they just discuss whatever their final offer is and get the CWU to allow a vote on it so we can decide if it's acceptable or not? I sense most members just want to settle this dispute and move on with their lives.
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by chickenwittle »

TopperGas wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 19:40
Shadedpostie wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:17
From a glance at Workplace, Ricky and Zareera are taking questions about the pay offer they have published to the union today. So from that or looks like neither of them have actually met up for further discussions if they are talking about the same deal.
I thought RM had walked away from discussing that offer assuming it's the one they published last week? Why don't they just discuss whatever their final offer is and get the CWU to allow a vote on it so we can decide if it's acceptable or not? I sense most members just want to settle this dispute and move on with their lives.
Your not going to move on with your life if it’s a shocking deal and gets voted down by the members, you will be back to square 1 .
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Re: The weekend is over

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chickenwittle wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 20:13
TopperGas wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 19:40
Shadedpostie wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 16:17
From a glance at Workplace, Ricky and Zareera are taking questions about the pay offer they have published to the union today. So from that or looks like neither of them have actually met up for further discussions if they are talking about the same deal.
I thought RM had walked away from discussing that offer assuming it's the one they published last week? Why don't they just discuss whatever their final offer is and get the CWU to allow a vote on it so we can decide if it's acceptable or not? I sense most members just want to settle this dispute and move on with their lives.
Your not going to move on with your life if it’s a shocking deal and gets voted down by the members, you will be back to square 1 .
Everybody knows more or less knows the likely offer, it's not like the CWU/RM are suddenly going to hit us with an offer we weren't expecting.
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Re: The weekend is over

Post by guardianangel »

Ppat98 wrote:
11 Apr 2023, 15:38
Give the union some credit, they did make RM budge on their supposed "final offer". The Union have made a few mistakes but in general they've done more good than bad.
The pay rise has got worse :crazy: :crazy: and not backdated,the sick pay changes hasn't been taken off the table ,the later starts are still coming all be it next year,no revisions will be reversed and all the reps are still suspended,im struggling to see what i pay my subs for ,its not great value for money.