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The Whole reason we are now on strike is one man's folly

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Re: The Whole reason we are now on strike is one man's folly

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pinstripe wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 15:39
Redden and Ppat98, I respect your opinions and your right to express it, but, and this is only my opinion, you both talk a load of bo****ks.
Completely respect your opinion aswell but instead of making a general statement why not grow some Bo**ocks & be specific about what I said was wrong.
Last time I asked someone to be specific, a tumble weed sweep by. Let's hope that doesn't happen again 😅
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Re: The Whole reason we are now on strike is one man's folly

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Trumanity wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 16:28
Not going to happen. ST is just going to sack everyone using the 12 weeks rule. Your new self employed owner driver contract will turn up in a Tracked 48 box in the New Year. Pay =50 p a parcel, 7 days a week , Cover your holidays, No Sick Pay, No Pension, sign on the .......................

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Re: The Whole reason we are now on strike is one man's folly

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k979aaa wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 16:16
pinstripe wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 15:39
Redden and Ppat98, I respect your opinions and your right to express it, but, and this is only my opinion, you both talk a load of bo****ks.
Well what can I say this is a forum about RM but we have people on here who are telling us we are wrong to defend the terms conditions that were fought for by our great grandfather's. And these people show up and say the door is over there nice and accuse us of militancy if it made a hill of beans difference I park a tank on ST's head but it will not work. We need a resolution not some "Advice on here" by people who obviously don't WORK in RM thanks for the advice and put it in my to do list in 2099. When I get my pension in 120 years as with the way with which things are going!
Ok, whenever you finish what it is your smoking. Have a long look in the mirror, then take some accountability for the state of your life, like a MAN should do. Cause your sounding like a whole Bi**h out here blaming other people for your woe's.
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Re: The Whole reason we are now on strike is one man's folly

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Ppat98 wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 21:05
k979aaa wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 16:16
pinstripe wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 15:39
Redden and Ppat98, I respect your opinions and your right to express it, but, and this is only my opinion, you both talk a load of bo****ks.
Well what can I say this is a forum about RM but we have people on here who are telling us we are wrong to defend the terms conditions that were fought for by our great grandfather's. And these people show up and say the door is over there nice and accuse us of militancy if it made a hill of beans difference I park a tank on ST's head but it will not work. We need a resolution not some "Advice on here" by people who obviously don't WORK in RM thanks for the advice and put it in my to do list in 2099. When I get my pension in 120 years as with the way with which things are going!
Ok, whenever you finish what it is your smoking. Have a long look in the mirror, then take some accountability for the state of your life, like a MAN should do. Cause your sounding like a whole Bi**h out here blaming other people for your woe's.
Posting on here is not in the prerequisite of managers is it so don't tell me what to say and do not at work now so do one pal.
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Re: The Whole reason we are now on strike is one man's folly

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Awww the typical manager reply. Not surprising coming from a paranoid crackpot like yourself. You think management are gonna be on here after the strike's are pretty much done & dusted lol Oh let me guess they are trying to infiltrate the next round of strikes 😅. Do yourself a favor & get seen too asap. Something ain't right with you fella. Your opening monologue say's it all lol
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monologue nice I think you need to calm down son rest easy take a few deep breaths and chill.
Well this is not about me or even the CEO of this once great company/business the real reason is the forces of free market capitalism in all its might one can only dream where the vast sums of money go? wonder where I do know that RM has a lot of useful idiots who do nothing all day and be made to work on strike days on ops managers!
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Re: The Whole reason we are now on strike is one man's folly

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Ppat98 wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 18:13
pinstripe wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 15:39
Redden and Ppat98, I respect your opinions and your right to express it, but, and this is only my opinion, you both talk a load of bo****ks.
Completely respect your opinion aswell but instead of making a general statement why not grow some Bo**ocks & be specific about what I said was wrong.
Last time I asked someone to be specific, a tumble weed sweep by. Let's hope that doesn't happen again 😅
Well let’s take this snippet
“ The solution is simple. Get a skill, work for yourself & you won't get knocked from pillar to post in the future or play the blame game your whole life & pass that same attitude to your kids.”

Firstly, when we are physically and mentally exhausted every single day, just when are we going to have the time, energy and money to suddenly learn a new skill? Your ‘advice’ might be of use to someone in their early twenties, not in their late fifties.

Secondly, why should someone who has devoted their entire working life to provide a service to their local community have to accept that they should learn a new skill and get a new job, just to appease the greed of the bosses? Some of us would rather stay and fight to protect what we have, and to protect the futures of those coming after us. We’re not looking for more, we just don’t want less.

This is what is wrong about your statement, your solution, that if you don’t like it, leave, is not really an option for tens of thousands of people, and is why I think it is bo****ks.

I hope this clarifies it for you
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Re: The Whole reason we are now on strike is one man's folly

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pinstripe wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 22:31
Ppat98 wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 18:13
pinstripe wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 15:39
Redden and Ppat98, I respect your opinions and your right to express it, but, and this is only my opinion, you both talk a load of bo****ks.
Completely respect your opinion aswell but instead of making a general statement why not grow some Bo**ocks & be specific about what I said was wrong.
Last time I asked someone to be specific, a tumble weed sweep by. Let's hope that doesn't happen again 😅
Well let’s take this snippet
“ The solution is simple. Get a skill, work for yourself & you won't get knocked from pillar to post in the future or play the blame game your whole life & pass that same attitude to your kids.”

Firstly, when we are physically and mentally exhausted every single day, just when are we going to have the time, energy and money to suddenly learn a new skill? Your ‘advice’ might be of use to someone in their early twenties, not in their late fifties.

Secondly, why should someone who has devoted their entire working life to provide a service to their local community have to accept that they should learn a new skill and get a new job, just to appease the greed of the bosses? Some of us would rather stay and fight to protect what we have, and to protect the futures of those coming after us. We’re not looking for more, we just don’t want less.

This is what is wrong about your statement, your solution, that if you don’t like it, leave, is not really an option for tens of thousands of people, and is why I think it is bo****ks.

I hope this clarifies it for you
A thing plays into this with pensions and the NHS and they all say the same thing and it sucks sorry I will fight than flight!
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So glad you turned up after brexit and now tell us the benefits and as to your assumption that you have about this whole action it would actually help if you turned up on time, 1917 yeah get on with it ship out and do one simon.
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Re: The Whole reason we are now on strike is one man's folly

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Me calm down? I'm not the 1 blaming my problems on the world elite, you are you muppet 😅 Plenty of working class people out here like plumber's, electricians etc who don't fit in to your crackpot narrative. They seem to be doing ok & it's because most of them are their own bosses.

You see when you sign up to a company like we have. You run the risk of 1 day being shafted or maybe a simpleton like yourself thought everything would run smoothly until you retired lol.

This RM debacle has happened to many other companies throughout history & long before your great reset prophecy came to light. Which is why movements like communism grew in popularity.

Hey don't worry, if all else fails you would be perfect for a don't do drugs campaign or you could go to a rehab center to deter people off whatever it is your on. We all have some value eh 😅
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Re: The Whole reason we are now on strike is one man's folly

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SogladIvotedBrexit wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 22:54
k979aaa wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 22:47
So glad you turned up after brexit and now tell us the benefits and as to your assumption that you have about this whole action it would actually help if you turned up on time, 1917 yeah get on with it ship out and do one simon.
There are certain things I have deduced about you K979aaa. You think you're intellectual when in reality you are a very short sighted individual with bog standard education.
And I think your a sad man without a moral compass and even if it did work you probably just go where the hell you want!
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pinstripe wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 22:31
Ppat98 wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 18:13
pinstripe wrote:
23 Dec 2022, 15:39
Redden and Ppat98, I respect your opinions and your right to express it, but, and this is only my opinion, you both talk a load of bo****ks.
Completely respect your opinion aswell but instead of making a general statement why not grow some Bo**ocks & be specific about what I said was wrong.
Last time I asked someone to be specific, a tumble weed sweep by. Let's hope that doesn't happen again 😅
Well let’s take this snippet
“ The solution is simple. Get a skill, work for yourself & you won't get knocked from pillar to post in the future or play the blame game your whole life & pass that same attitude to your kids.”

Firstly, when we are physically and mentally exhausted every single day, just when are we going to have the time, energy and money to suddenly learn a new skill? Your ‘advice’ might be of use to someone in their early twenties, not in their late fifties.

Secondly, why should someone who has devoted their entire working life to provide a service to their local community have to accept that they should learn a new skill and get a new job, just to appease the greed of the bosses? Some of us would rather stay and fight to protect what we have, and to protect the futures of those coming after us. We’re not looking for more, we just don’t want less.

This is what is wrong about your statement, your solution, that if you don’t like it, leave, is not really an option for tens of thousands of people, and is why I think it is bo****ks.

I hope this clarifies it for you
To summarize, you thought I was talking Bo**ocks to the over 50's but anyone younger it's ok. I'll take that 😅

You raised a fair point about people not being able to have the time in their 50's to get a new skill but as I said to the previous moron. It's a risk you take when you sign up to a company. Did you seriously believe everything would be honky dory until your dying day's? If you did you were talking Bo**ocks to yourself.

& There's plenty of people learning new skills online everyday. If you dedicate a couple of hours a day to something for a month you could get a job. I get it we all fall into the comfort zone of doing what we do but this job isn't the be all & end all. There's easier grafts out there.
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To many surrender monkeys on here if enough of you all are prepared to stand up we will win this fight. However there is a few surrender monkeys who will gladly roll over and take it up the arse. not naming them