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Scan in and out

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HairyHobbit
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Re: Scan in and out

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If you go to SISO on the PDA it brings up "start shift" or "end shift" and clicking one automatically signs you in or out. No need to scan a card at all if you're logged in.
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Re: Scan in and out

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ted_e_bear wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 16:46
olilew wrote:
21 Oct 2022, 22:52
Without going into detail it works to my advantage as well :wink:
I'm guessing possibly incorrectly that he's doing a loop or two to compensate which in theory is great I'd like that arrangement if I were you, however if he's scanning out on his PDA then still working for half an hour or whatever then maybe not so good these days.
No, why would he do that? He scans out last thing and goes home.
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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 21:52
How would that work then, he must be finishing early everyday as there’s no travel time for him back to the office.
Know a few that do this. One does it because he changed rounds and coming back would put him over his time. And the others because they don't drive so they see no point coming back.
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Re: Scan in and out

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Foxel wrote:
24 Oct 2022, 18:38
Clappedoutpostie wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 21:52
How would that work then, he must be finishing early everyday as there’s no travel time for him back to the office.
Know a few that do this. One does it because he changed rounds and coming back would put him over his time. And the others because they don't drive so they see no point coming back.
I wonder what will happen if SISO highlights that posties such as these two are finishing, say, 15 mins early every day?
glass joe
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Re: Scan in and out

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r.i.p to the posties who pass me on the way home when i still got a loop or two left.

Clocking in and out will be the death of posties next year when they use it against you, either with starting 5-10 minutes after your start time (every office has them) finshing early without taking breaks (when its linked to pay) and getting bigger walks.

to be fair im surpised they didnt come in 10 years ago.
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Re: Scan in and out

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ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 12:43
Does anyone know if the time you "sign out" assumes you've taken your full break entitlement, according to the way forward agreement if you're entitled to 40min then the agreement states probable pattern is either 40 or 20 + 20, it also states if your attendance has more than one break then one can be taken at the end of the shift, I know this is getting a bit picky but because it's saying you can split 40 into 2 X 20 does that actually count bearing in mind you are permitted to take the 40 in one go as opposed to longer attendances where the breaks are officially split into two.

I take 20 at an appropriate time midday and I'd rather remain doing so but not if it's going to start appearing that I've finished 20 mins early,
Where is this officially?
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Re: Scan in and out

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glass joe wrote:
24 Oct 2022, 22:03
r.i.p to the posties who pass me on the way home when i still got a loop or two left.

Clocking in and out will be the death of posties next year when they use it against you, either with starting 5-10 minutes after your start time (every office has them) finshing early without taking breaks (when its linked to pay) and getting bigger walks.

to be fair im surpised they didnt come in 10 years ago.
It’s not their fault you’re slower than them. Maybe the business will look at speeding you up instead
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Re: Scan in and out

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Smir wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 02:43
ted_e_bear wrote:
20 Oct 2022, 12:43
Does anyone know if the time you "sign out" assumes you've taken your full break entitlement, according to the way forward agreement if you're entitled to 40min then the agreement states probable pattern is either 40 or 20 + 20, it also states if your attendance has more than one break then one can be taken at the end of the shift, I know this is getting a bit picky but because it's saying you can split 40 into 2 X 20 does that actually count bearing in mind you are permitted to take the 40 in one go as opposed to longer attendances where the breaks are officially split into two.

I take 20 at an appropriate time midday and I'd rather remain doing so but not if it's going to start appearing that I've finished 20 mins early,
Where is this officially?
The break entitlement and 'Probable Pattern' (that's how it's described) for breaks are in The Way Forward Agreement 2000
glass joe
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Re: Scan in and out

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number one wrote:
25 Oct 2022, 08:59
glass joe wrote:
24 Oct 2022, 22:03
r.i.p to the posties who pass me on the way home when i still got a loop or two left.

Clocking in and out will be the death of posties next year when they use it against you, either with starting 5-10 minutes after your start time (every office has them) finshing early without taking breaks (when its linked to pay) and getting bigger walks.

to be fair im surpised they didnt come in 10 years ago.
It’s not their fault you’re slower than them. Maybe the business will look at speeding you up instead
1-2 hours before their finish time? i doubt it.
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Way forward per se is not being ripped up.
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Kooyong
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Re: Scan in and out

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On 30 hrs. I start at 845 finish 1445. I leave the office around 930 so I don't need a break when I've only been at work 45 mins. Also lm on hct walk so am I supposed to just stand in middle of the street for 30 minutes when I'm halfway round, where there's no place to sit down or shelter from the weather?
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Re: Scan in and out

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Well, if the way it's going to be implemented in our office is anything to go by, I wouldn't be expecting anything to change at all.
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Re: Scan in and out

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Cucumber wrote:
27 Oct 2022, 17:47
Well, if the way it's going to be implemented in our office is anything to go by, I wouldn't be expecting anything to change at all.
Wouldn't be so sure about that, from another thread: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=107073&p=1005292 (second post on that page)

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Re: Scan in and out

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HairyHobbit wrote:
23 Oct 2022, 16:49
If you go to SISO on the PDA it brings up "start shift" or "end shift" and clicking one automatically signs you in or out. No need to scan a card at all if you're logged in.
According to the official paperwork you only use the facility on your own PDA in exceptional circumstances ie: you get back late to find the office locked thus not able to scan on the office PDA. Apparently they insist on everyone using the office PDA, whether this will be adhered to by managers who knows but just beware of going off piste and doing your own thing!