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Scan in and out
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ted_e_bear
- Posts: 4085
- Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 19:37
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Re: Scan in and out
Does anyone know if the time you "sign out" assumes you've taken your full break entitlement, according to the way forward agreement if you're entitled to 40min then the agreement states probable pattern is either 40 or 20 + 20, it also states if your attendance has more than one break then one can be taken at the end of the shift, I know this is getting a bit picky but because it's saying you can split 40 into 2 X 20 does that actually count bearing in mind you are permitted to take the 40 in one go as opposed to longer attendances where the breaks are officially split into two.
I take 20 at an appropriate time midday and I'd rather remain doing so but not if it's going to start appearing that I've finished 20 mins early,
I take 20 at an appropriate time midday and I'd rather remain doing so but not if it's going to start appearing that I've finished 20 mins early,
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SpacePhoenix
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 12142
- Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
I'm guessing that you'd have to remain in the office and not go home early if taking your break at the end. The SISO probably does assume that you've taken all your breaksted_e_bear wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 12:43Does anyone know if the time you "sign out" assumes you've taken your full break entitlement, according to the way forward agreement if you're entitled to 40min then the agreement states probable pattern is either 40 or 20 + 20, it also states if your attendance has more than one break then one can be taken at the end of the shift, I know this is getting a bit picky but because it's saying you can split 40 into 2 X 20 does that actually count bearing in mind you are permitted to take the 40 in one go as opposed to longer attendances where the breaks are officially split into two.
I take 20 at an appropriate time midday and I'd rather remain doing so but not if it's going to start appearing that I've finished 20 mins early,
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TopperGas
- Posts: 3463
- Joined: 13 Feb 2021, 22:46
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
Surely SISO is no different than completing the time sheets and the manager agreeing that you can leave 20 mins early each day? Its not like you do it without there agreement?
If post SISO the manager insists you must take your break at the end of the day I'll just sit in the canteen for 20mins, so RM won't gain anything.
If post SISO the manager insists you must take your break at the end of the day I'll just sit in the canteen for 20mins, so RM won't gain anything.
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Route1
- Posts: 369
- Joined: 05 Jun 2015, 00:48
- Gender: Female
Re: Scan in and out
No-one really knows how SISO will work. We have an assumption based on what we've been told.
Heard the manager on a call (probably to siso team) saying SISO will incorrectly pick up long & short day shift patterns.
Heard the manager on a call (probably to siso team) saying SISO will incorrectly pick up long & short day shift patterns.
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Cucumber
- Posts: 1052
- Joined: 09 Dec 2018, 10:24
- Gender: Female
Re: Scan in and out
Which, given that there is just over a week to go (or less) seems typically Royal Mail. Finishing their working day on the street and scanning out on the PDA would help many people with childcare and other commitments, but it's not been said if this is an option.
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Moose67
- Posts: 130
- Joined: 09 Mar 2016, 22:30
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
Why scan out on street return to office and scan out at least 20 mins travelling back for me (rural) plus 10 mins bagging off or putting van on charge break off everyday no chance of completing job throws revisions out the window jobs a gudun

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rambo1
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 3266
- Joined: 12 Jun 2013, 20:00
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
If you take your break at the end of your shift, then you sign out after you've had your break. Easy.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 12:58I'm guessing that you'd have to remain in the office and not go home early if taking your break at the end. The SISO probably does assume that you've taken all your breaksted_e_bear wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 12:43Does anyone know if the time you "sign out" assumes you've taken your full break entitlement, according to the way forward agreement if you're entitled to 40min then the agreement states probable pattern is either 40 or 20 + 20, it also states if your attendance has more than one break then one can be taken at the end of the shift, I know this is getting a bit picky but because it's saying you can split 40 into 2 X 20 does that actually count bearing in mind you are permitted to take the 40 in one go as opposed to longer attendances where the breaks are officially split into two.
I take 20 at an appropriate time midday and I'd rather remain doing so but not if it's going to start appearing that I've finished 20 mins early,
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rambo1
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 3266
- Joined: 12 Jun 2013, 20:00
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
Before you get back too. You can't just get off home and have your break there coz that defeats the purpose of having a break during your shift. If you do the former they'll get the idea that you don't actually need a break and then not pay you for one thus getting 30 mins extra work out of you!
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hans solo
- Posts: 3277
- Joined: 06 Feb 2011, 18:08
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
I’m thinking of returning to office and taking full 40 mins in one go half way during work day
Would also include a 15 min return to office and 15 min back to duty and 15 min return to finish
Can they stop this ???
Would also include a 15 min return to office and 15 min back to duty and 15 min return to finish
Can they stop this ???
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k979aaa
- Posts: 12578
- Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
- Gender: Male
- Location: THE NORTH
Re: Scan in and out
Never been tested but you must be able to use the facilities of the office ie the toilet and a place to eat and rest and take a break meal relife. As such I should say I would do the same and encourage others to do so getting kidney stones holding it all in is no fun!
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pieoftheday
- Posts: 1834
- Joined: 11 Mar 2010, 16:43
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
40 min in one go, yep, 15 min return to office, yup. 15 mi back to duty eh? 15 min return to finish eh? What are the last two 15 mins about? Ah you mean do a couple of hrs delivery go back to the office for a full meal relief and then back out? I cant see them accepting that normally, although when we had our revision balls up my manager told me to go out at 7.30am with the previous days full delivery, my rep said I could return to the office for my break half way through as there hadn't been time before going out
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Acca Dacca
- Posts: 3212
- Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 17:13
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
he means at for instance 12 o clock he would;pieoftheday wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 16:2140 min in one go, yep, 15 min return to office, yup. 15 mi back to duty eh? 15 min return to finish eh? What are the last two 15 mins about?
travel 15 mins to go from duty to office
40 min break at office
15 mins travelling from office back to the duty
deliver what he has time to
15 mins travelling back to the office to sign out
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
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k979aaa
- Posts: 12578
- Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
- Gender: Male
- Location: THE NORTH
Re: Scan in and out
It is travel time it is this guys meal relife he can take it when he wants all of this making people work harder means people have too adapt to the change you cannot make people suffer for the name of profit.pieoftheday wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 16:2140 min in one go, yep, 15 min return to office, yup. 15 mi back to duty eh? 15 min return to finish eh? What are the last two 15 mins about?
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Cucumber
- Posts: 1052
- Joined: 09 Dec 2018, 10:24
- Gender: Female
Re: Scan in and out
Is this in response to SISO coming in or just a coincidence as you've been thinking of doing it for a while?
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clashcityrocker
- Posts: 16624
- Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
- Gender: Male
- Location: strummerville
Re: Scan in and out
Yes.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.