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Scan in and out
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HairyHobbit
- Posts: 114
- Joined: 29 Aug 2021, 10:26
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
If you go to SISO on the PDA it brings up "start shift" or "end shift" and clicking one automatically signs you in or out. No need to scan a card at all if you're logged in.
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olilew
- Posts: 594
- Joined: 19 May 2010, 22:04
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
No, why would he do that? He scans out last thing and goes home.ted_e_bear wrote: ↑23 Oct 2022, 16:46I'm guessing possibly incorrectly that he's doing a loop or two to compensate which in theory is great I'd like that arrangement if I were you, however if he's scanning out on his PDA then still working for half an hour or whatever then maybe not so good these days.
"Just take it out and see how you go......."
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Foxel
- EX ROYAL MAIL
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- Joined: 04 Oct 2021, 21:20
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
Know a few that do this. One does it because he changed rounds and coming back would put him over his time. And the others because they don't drive so they see no point coming back.Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 21:52How would that work then, he must be finishing early everyday as there’s no travel time for him back to the office.
I'm turning purple!
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TopperGas
- Posts: 3463
- Joined: 13 Feb 2021, 22:46
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
I wonder what will happen if SISO highlights that posties such as these two are finishing, say, 15 mins early every day?Foxel wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 18:38Know a few that do this. One does it because he changed rounds and coming back would put him over his time. And the others because they don't drive so they see no point coming back.Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 21:52How would that work then, he must be finishing early everyday as there’s no travel time for him back to the office.
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glass joe
- Posts: 171
- Joined: 11 Mar 2013, 16:59
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
r.i.p to the posties who pass me on the way home when i still got a loop or two left.
Clocking in and out will be the death of posties next year when they use it against you, either with starting 5-10 minutes after your start time (every office has them) finshing early without taking breaks (when its linked to pay) and getting bigger walks.
to be fair im surpised they didnt come in 10 years ago.
Clocking in and out will be the death of posties next year when they use it against you, either with starting 5-10 minutes after your start time (every office has them) finshing early without taking breaks (when its linked to pay) and getting bigger walks.
to be fair im surpised they didnt come in 10 years ago.
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Smir
- Posts: 124
- Joined: 31 Aug 2016, 16:48
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
Where is this officially?ted_e_bear wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 12:43Does anyone know if the time you "sign out" assumes you've taken your full break entitlement, according to the way forward agreement if you're entitled to 40min then the agreement states probable pattern is either 40 or 20 + 20, it also states if your attendance has more than one break then one can be taken at the end of the shift, I know this is getting a bit picky but because it's saying you can split 40 into 2 X 20 does that actually count bearing in mind you are permitted to take the 40 in one go as opposed to longer attendances where the breaks are officially split into two.
I take 20 at an appropriate time midday and I'd rather remain doing so but not if it's going to start appearing that I've finished 20 mins early,
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number one
- Posts: 1324
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- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
It’s not their fault you’re slower than them. Maybe the business will look at speeding you up insteadglass joe wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 22:03r.i.p to the posties who pass me on the way home when i still got a loop or two left.
Clocking in and out will be the death of posties next year when they use it against you, either with starting 5-10 minutes after your start time (every office has them) finshing early without taking breaks (when its linked to pay) and getting bigger walks.
to be fair im surpised they didnt come in 10 years ago.
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yellowbelly
- Posts: 3713
- Joined: 23 Jun 2015, 15:51
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
The break entitlement and 'Probable Pattern' (that's how it's described) for breaks are in The Way Forward Agreement 2000Smir wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 02:43Where is this officially?ted_e_bear wrote: ↑20 Oct 2022, 12:43Does anyone know if the time you "sign out" assumes you've taken your full break entitlement, according to the way forward agreement if you're entitled to 40min then the agreement states probable pattern is either 40 or 20 + 20, it also states if your attendance has more than one break then one can be taken at the end of the shift, I know this is getting a bit picky but because it's saying you can split 40 into 2 X 20 does that actually count bearing in mind you are permitted to take the 40 in one go as opposed to longer attendances where the breaks are officially split into two.
I take 20 at an appropriate time midday and I'd rather remain doing so but not if it's going to start appearing that I've finished 20 mins early,
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glass joe
- Posts: 171
- Joined: 11 Mar 2013, 16:59
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
1-2 hours before their finish time? i doubt it.number one wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 08:59It’s not their fault you’re slower than them. Maybe the business will look at speeding you up insteadglass joe wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 22:03r.i.p to the posties who pass me on the way home when i still got a loop or two left.
Clocking in and out will be the death of posties next year when they use it against you, either with starting 5-10 minutes after your start time (every office has them) finshing early without taking breaks (when its linked to pay) and getting bigger walks.
to be fair im surpised they didnt come in 10 years ago.
Always do the bare minimum never give 100% you just get punished
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POSTMAN
- SITE ADMINISTRATOR
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Re: Scan in and out
Way forward per se is not being ripped up.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Kooyong
- Posts: 14
- Joined: 17 Jun 2011, 14:52
- Gender: Male
Re: Scan in and out
On 30 hrs. I start at 845 finish 1445. I leave the office around 930 so I don't need a break when I've only been at work 45 mins. Also lm on hct walk so am I supposed to just stand in middle of the street for 30 minutes when I'm halfway round, where there's no place to sit down or shelter from the weather?
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Cucumber
- Posts: 1052
- Joined: 09 Dec 2018, 10:24
- Gender: Female
Re: Scan in and out
Well, if the way it's going to be implemented in our office is anything to go by, I wouldn't be expecting anything to change at all.
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SpacePhoenix
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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- Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
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Re: Scan in and out
Wouldn't be so sure about that, from another thread: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=107073&p=1005292 (second post on that page)
Edit: Wish it was easier to link to another post
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clockworkjerk
- POST OFFICE
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- Joined: 02 Nov 2008, 22:45
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GRS
- Posts: 822
- Joined: 15 Jun 2015, 18:38
- Gender: Female
- Location: South West
Re: Scan in and out
According to the official paperwork you only use the facility on your own PDA in exceptional circumstances ie: you get back late to find the office locked thus not able to scan on the office PDA. Apparently they insist on everyone using the office PDA, whether this will be adhered to by managers who knows but just beware of going off piste and doing your own thing!HairyHobbit wrote: ↑23 Oct 2022, 16:49If you go to SISO on the PDA it brings up "start shift" or "end shift" and clicking one automatically signs you in or out. No need to scan a card at all if you're logged in.