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fluxburner
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Headmaster "Royal mail" / "The Times".

Post by fluxburner »

Article in "The Times", break down is : We have been given a "final warning" by Royal mail, there wiil be job losses, apparantely we have demanded a 10% pay increase. Every day on strike we lose £10m on letters and £15m on parcels. "city analysis say 19 days of walkouts could cost up to 320m".
Also a RM spokesman said "The CWU can be in no doubt of the impact its reckless pursuit of 19 days of of industrial action has on our weakened financial position".
Always a good idea imho buying a paper like this now and again: Know your enemy, follow your enemy, study your enemy. The Times and Royal Mail can Kiss my fat ass.
Clappedoutpostie
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Again the numbers don’t add up, how can they lose £10 million a day on letters as they will still be paid for and delivered on our return. Parcels I could understand as volume can be shifted elsewhere but the letters bit has to be a lie so how can we trust the parcels figure.
Slim2none
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Post by Slim2none »

Genuine question....
£10M per day
313 days (no sundays)
A little over £3Bn p.a. in letters revenue? Is that accurate(ish) figure?
As only 1 piece of current revenue stream, it looks like we should be able to turn a profit when it all gets put together. So where the hell and how the hell are we losing £1M a day!?
Mick100
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I’d sooner Royal Mail go under than agree to their terms an conditions we’d all move on and hopefully get a job where we don’t go home totally knackered
pinstripe
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Post by pinstripe »

Slim2none wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 22:20
Genuine question....
£10M per day
313 days (no sundays)
A little over £3Bn p.a. in letters revenue? Is that accurate(ish) figure?
As only 1 piece of current revenue stream, it looks like we should be able to turn a profit when it all gets put together. So where the hell and how the hell are we losing £1M a day!?
Well you’re forgetting Simon and his pirates bonuses, shares, expenses, managers bonuses and bribes, hiring agency staff from their own company, the thousands of middle management roles, staff uniforms and electric vehicles. Sorry, scrap those last 2, so you can see why £25 million per day is quickly gobbled up
DirtyHarry
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Mick100 wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 22:37
I’d sooner Royal Mail go under than agree to their terms an conditions we’d all move on and hopefully get a job where we don’t go home totally knackered
Ditto. :Applause :Applause :Applause
Tman
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Yeah, until the "threat" turned into a possible prospect and harsh reality kicked in... :crazy:
twoloops
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Post by twoloops »

Mick100 wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 22:37
I’d sooner Royal Mail go under than agree to their terms an conditions we’d all move on and hopefully get a job where we don’t go home totally knackered
I agree, there is no going back now, I will help Simon & his cronies destroy Royal Mail, if it saves me working Sunday’s, banking hours & this commit to delivery malarkey, bring it on :dance
toonshola
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I just can’t see how there can be any job losses/cuts. Our office has been regularly failing delivery’s for over 3 years and that is after all the overtime crew mop up the hand backs etc. Who’s gunna do all the work if they get rid of people? Surely just a hollow threat to scare the staff/union.
TopperGas
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toonshola wrote:
01 Oct 2022, 11:39
I just can’t see how there can be any job losses/cuts. Our office has been regularly failing delivery’s for over 3 years and that is after all the overtime crew mop up the hand backs etc. Who’s gunna do all the work if they get rid of people? Surely just a hollow threat to scare the staff/union.
I agree it's a stupid suggestion, firstly to cut jobs that will mean big redundancy pay outs given the length of service staff have built up, then they''ll have to pay a similar rate of pay to get anybody to do such a physical job, it's not like PO Ferries where they could replace staff with cheap foreign based workers,
tractorboy2
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They save about £11 million in wages not including tax, NI and pension payments.
goneaway
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Clappedoutpostie wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 21:52
Again the numbers don’t add up, how can they lose £10 million a day on letters as they will still be paid for and delivered on our return. Parcels I could understand as volume can be shifted elsewhere but the letters bit has to be a lie so how can we trust the parcels figure.
There could be a cost further down the line, as I assume OFCOM don't suspend their targets during a strike for the percentage of first and second class mail that is delivered within the presribed time limits, which could attract a fine. This would have to be priced into the profit and loss account.

Also, a company that planned to do a mailshot through Royal Mail might decide to do it another way, such as social media, radio, TV or leaflets via a private leaflet delivery company. There must be some loss here, but probably more than offset by the massive saving on the payroll.
daveyeff
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Slim2none wrote:
30 Sep 2022, 22:20
Genuine question....
£10M per day
313 days (no sundays)
A little over £3Bn p.a. in letters revenue? Is that accurate(ish) figure?
As only 1 piece of current revenue stream, it looks like we should be able to turn a profit when it all gets put together. So where the hell and how the hell are we losing £1M a day!?
We aren't. They are bullshitting