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Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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Apparently Simon is allegedly claiming that the union met VESA on workplace. More than once
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Re: Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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If they did,it was probably to find out the truth. As we won’t get the truth from Thompson,makes sense. He is a worried man,what’s next from him. Stay strong & don’t be swayed
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Re: Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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There’s no issue with the CWU meeting VESA if it’s to ask about talks with Royal Mail

Remember how Simon and Ricky dodged the question? There is something in it - if they hadn’t met them they would have just said they hadn’t met them to the media
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Re: Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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The issue is the union made such a big deal about vesa having clandestine meetings with RM but never once mentioned they had done the same thing on any video/press anything.
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Re: Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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cobrakai wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 12:00
The issue is the union made such a big deal about vesa having clandestine meetings with RM but never once mentioned they had done the same thing on any video/press anything.
It’s two compete different scenarios though

There’s a huge difference between meeting them to find out what’s going on and meeting them to discuss a takeover

It’s like if a husbans is suspected of cheating on his wife with a mistress and the wife meets with the mistress to try and find out if it’s true

The wife meeting the mistress isn’t the same as the man meeting up with the mistress :chuckle

Yet we’ve to believe both are the same?
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Re: Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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Acca Dacca wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 12:14
cobrakai wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 12:00
The issue is the union made such a big deal about vesa having clandestine meetings with RM but never once mentioned they had done the same thing on any video/press anything.
It’s two compete different scenarios though

There’s a huge difference between meeting them to find out what’s going on and meeting them to discuss a takeover

It’s like if a husbans is suspected of cheating on his wife with a mistress and the wife meets with the mistress to try and find out if it’s true

The wife meeting the mistress isn’t the same as the man meeting up with the mistress :chuckle

Yet we’ve to believe both are the same?
Haha 😂 classic that’s ace
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Re: Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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Acca Dacca wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 12:14
cobrakai wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 12:00
The issue is the union made such a big deal about vesa having clandestine meetings with RM but never once mentioned they had done the same thing on any video/press anything.
It’s two compete different scenarios though

There’s a huge difference between meeting them to find out what’s going on and meeting them to discuss a takeover
If the union had met with them to find out what's going on then that would have been important information for their members. If, as has been suggested on another thread, this was a single senior union official having an unauthorised clandestine meeting with them off his own bat then that is potentially very serious. Was that meeting for the benefit of his members or for his own benefit? Did he agree to act in a certain way or to try to avert certain types of action?

Any such meeting should be properly authorised, documented and attended by more than a single official in order to ensure that any improper agreement is reached between the parties
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The rumours of sneaky clandestine behind the scenes deals were about Terry. Thompson said Ward has knew about the meetings for months so it can’t be anything untoward from Terry like the rumour suggested given he’s been involved the last few months - if he was doing anything he shouldn’t have he wouldn’t have been
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I'd be more disappointed if they hadn't met the largest shareholder of the business. VESA is after all as close to the "owner" of the business as possible.

They met the government during disputes when the government was the "owner".
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Please stop defending rubbish! There is no need for the Union to meet the largest shareholder - are the shareholders running the company ona day basis.

Will Vesa ever ever tell the Union what they intend or not intend to do? NO! I doubt VESA will the CEO too - potential insider dealing or letting the cat out of the bag...

It smell fishy and it is wrong! The Union have overstepped the mark and gone beyond its remit; no wonder they are now been gradually cancelled by the operational and management side of Royal Mail.

The Union is not running RM and will never be allowed to run a private company - they cannot do it anyway. Even if we are the workers and we have see and done it all; we are still employees at the end of the day.

The business will have to make its own decisions whether we like it or not but we can always advice or try to mitigate against the worst of their plans.

Stupid conspiracy theory that might end up coming true if we destroy the company and the share price tanked badly or the credit rating becomes junk.

CWU - stop the postering and politics because this might be your last hurrah
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chrisj wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 14:23
Please stop defending rubbish! There is no need for the Union to meet the largest shareholder - are the shareholders running the company ona day basis.

Will Vesa ever ever tell the Union what they intend or not intend to do? NO! I doubt VESA will the CEO too - potential insider dealing or letting the cat out of the bag...

It smell fishy and it is wrong! The Union have overstepped the mark and gone beyond its remit; no wonder they are now been gradually cancelled by the operational and management side of Royal Mail.

The Union is not running RM and will never be allowed to run a private company - they cannot do it anyway. Even if we are the workers and we have see and done it all; we are still employees at the end of the day.

The business will have to make its own decisions whether we like it or not but we can always advice or try to mitigate against the worst of their plans.

Stupid conspiracy theory that might end up coming true if we destroy the company and the share price tanked badly or the credit rating becomes junk.

CWU - stop the postering and politics because this might be your last hurrah
That’s a lot of words to say you are annoyed you are not getting the reaction you wanted
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Re: Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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Woody Guthrie wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 13:30
I'd be more disappointed if they hadn't met the largest shareholder of the business.
If they did meet then why didn't they tell us? Why are we finding out in this fashion?
If they didn't then this thread is nonsense.
A little bit of transparency wouldn't go amiss.
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Re: Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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It smell fishy and it is wrong!
Explain why?

Not the anti-union pish you normally spout, we all know your position just explain why it's wrong for the union to try and find out what the major shareholder may intend.

It might be a bit naive in my opinion, I kind of agree with you that they were unlikely to give anything away to the union but that doesn't make it wrong and certainly not fishy, just a little optimistic.
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Re: Wtf Did the union meet VESA?

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clashcityrocker wrote:
27 Sep 2022, 14:40
If they did meet then why didn't they tell us? Why are we finding out in this fashion?
Probably because the meeting was embarrassingly short and achieved the square root of f**k all I would imagine.

Ego seems to play a large part in all of this.
A little bit of transparency wouldn't go amiss
As always.
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Who’s to say it it wasn’t Vesta who approached Cwu