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Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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There is no alternative now for postal workers.
Strike when called upon.
Only work your paid hours between strikes.

Or, let Simon Thompson and his mates grind you into the dust, while they get even more richer off your backs and your sweat.
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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Head of Strategic Workforce Planning
I have followed up on your post and can confirm that the Annual Leave pick process will take place as normal this year, and we would expect managers and their teams to complete the process over the coming months as normal.

Anthony Bouch

All the CWU have been advised that where this had been raised and was being planned in, it has been removed and the Annual Leave (A/L) Pick Process to be undertaken through Sept/Oct 2022 for the 2023/24 A/L year will be undertaken as normal.

Simon 'Surely managers are not doing their own thing-thing? 'Thompson
Anthony Bouch to be clear - this was not a central policy - it is odd...
I have been trying for 24 hours to get to the bottom of this - there has certainly been no central instruction - if anyone can provide any solid evidence of this action - please email me - simon.d.thompson@royalmail.com - thank you....

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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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Goes without saying that the strikes will have more impact closer to Christmas, the Union won't want people to be losing shed loads of money in the months leading up to it or the will to strike/lose money before Christmas will be weak.

The company don't seem fussed about us striking right now so there's no point hammering everyone's wages for no reason, keep it ticking over til the Christmas rush begins then go hard.
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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Simon 'Surely managers are not doing their own thing-thing? 'Thompson
Anthony Bouch to be clear - this was not a central policy - it is odd...
I have been trying for 24 hours to get to the bottom of this - there has certainly been no central instruction - if anyone can provide any solid evidence of this action - please email me - simon.d.thompson@royalmail.com - thank you....
If it isn't/wasn't true why spend 24 hours trying to get to the bottom of it?

If it isn't/wasn't true it won't have a bottom, it's just made up s**t.

This seems more like a fishing exercise to find out where the leak came from/who screwed up...

Riiickyyyy....
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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Anthony Bouch to be clear - this was not a central policy - it is odd...
I have been trying for 24 hours to get to the bottom of this - there has certainly been no central instruction - if anyone can provide any solid evidence of this action - please email me - simon.d.thompson@royalmail.com - thank you....
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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when i showed the area rep on our union forum last night, it was like going to ''defcon 1'' in a matter of minutes. he txt the divrep and he got in touch with HQ. then me phone started pinging every few seconds. i think RM were testing the water to see if they could pull it off......no F*****g chance. :Very Happy
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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What makes you think they couldn't pull it off? RM seem to be tearing up agreements where it suits and if they really wanted to do this what are we going to do, strike?
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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Yes
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

Post by sindba »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
15 Sep 2022, 18:07
Simon 'Surely managers are not doing their own thing-thing? 'Thompson
Anthony Bouch to be clear - this was not a central policy - it is odd...
I have been trying for 24 hours to get to the bottom of this - there has certainly been no central instruction - if anyone can provide any solid evidence of this action - please email me - simon.d.thompson@royalmail.com - thank you....
If it isn't/wasn't true why spend 24 hours trying to get to the bottom of it?

If it isn't/wasn't true it won't have a bottom, it's just made up s**t.

This seems more like a fishing exercise to find out where the leak came from/who screwed up...

Riiickyyyy....
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

Post by guardianangel »

sindba wrote:
14 Sep 2022, 19:40
guardianangel wrote:
14 Sep 2022, 18:27
Its too late we have picked ours,im off those weeks next year no matter what ,ive booked my holidays now.
Well you've got 2 options-

1) hope we win our fight against Royal Mail
2) hope that RM / your manager will be gracious enough to honour pre-booked leave

Good luck with option 2.
I'm off no matter what or ill take them to court for losses as holidays already approved,time the union stepped up these attacks are getting out of control,every time they attack one office head office should be told and another strike date announced,we have a mandate on terms and conditions lets start using it and hit them hard ,this softly softly approach is going to lose us the battle,its the best time for strikes leading up to xmas lets hit home the advantage.
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

guardianangel wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 16:15
this softly softly approach is going to lose us the battle,its the best time for strikes leading up to xmas lets hit home the advantage.
The gap between strikes was deliberately made so RM could come back to the table for talks if they wished. Clearly things have gone the opposite way so I would imagine strike dates will come thick and fast if they waste this opportunity. It also takes us nearer to peak.
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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we have a mandate on terms and conditions lets start using it and hit them hard ,this softly softly approach is going to lose us the battle,its the best time for strikes leading up to xmas lets hit home the advantage.
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The next 2 strike dates starting 30th Sept are over terms and conditions.
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

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tinkerdil wrote:
16 Sep 2022, 18:51
we have a mandate on terms and conditions lets start using it and hit them hard ,this softly softly approach is going to lose us the battle,its the best time for strikes leading up to xmas lets hit home the advantage.
The next 2 strike dates starting 30th Sept are over terms and conditions.
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Yes i know ,but its time to start announcing more ,the train union have ,the CWU always one step behind,2 week noticed required so we need them this week to carry on momentum not just strike for 2 days wait a few weeks then worked to death to catch up then another 2,doing it this way is killing the workforce ,2 days every week in October needed then everyone gets a chance to miss one,personally id say every Wednesday and Thursday.
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

Post by k979aaa »

Just take leave when you need it then calculated that will f**k up their planing then they owe you it is not Royal Mails leave but yours!
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Re: Next Year's Annual Leave Pick Cancelled?

Post by SMS1969 »

I have had my first three picks confirmed for 2023-24. Although I am not contracted for Sunday working, the weeks off now show Sunday as one of my days off. Is this in case of executive action being forced through for Sunday working? It appears so :mad