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St George’s Day, has anyone noticed flag of St George flying high and proud at their Office ?
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I've never really understood the connection between England and St George or Scotland and St Andrew.

St David was Welsh so I get that and St Patrick was Irish but St George was a Palestinian/Greek serving in the Roman army who probably couldn't find England on a map and the stories of St Andrew visiting Scotland are highly dubious.
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Ours is at half mast following the death of Les McKeown.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 15:01
I've never really understood the connection between England and St George or Scotland and St Andrew.

St David was Welsh so I get that and St Patrick was Irish but St George was a Palestinian/Greek serving in the Roman army who probably couldn't find England on a map and the stories of St Andrew visiting Scotland are highly dubious.
Thought it was a simple query, I guess that the topic will now disappear into a multitude of tangents regarding history, mythology, religion, politics and Right-wing extremism. Ho Hum.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 15:04
Ours is at half mast following the death of Les McKeown.
Hope the flag has a Tartan trim !
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clashcityrocker wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 15:04
Ours is at half mast following the death of Les McKeown.
first scottish supergroup part of my youth had the shirt, trousers ,and red satin bomber jacket those were the days will raise a glass and put rollin album on tonight
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 15:01
I've never really understood the connection between England and St George or Scotland and St Andrew.

St David was Welsh so I get that and St Patrick was Irish but St George was a Palestinian/Greek serving in the Roman army who probably couldn't find England on a map and the stories of St Andrew visiting Scotland are highly dubious.
What's wrong with St George ? He is an adopted Patron saint of England, what exactly is your problem ? Do you have an alternative saint ? Or you just hate any form of patriotism ?

https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/vis ... s%20honour.
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He used to live a couple of miles up the road from here.
I've heard some stories, I dare say most of them true.
How did we get here?

Edit.
Les McKeown not St George.
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NWpostie wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 18:26
Woody Guthrie wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 15:01
I've never really understood the connection between England and St George or Scotland and St Andrew.

St David was Welsh so I get that and St Patrick was Irish but St George was a Palestinian/Greek serving in the Roman army who probably couldn't find England on a map and the stories of St Andrew visiting Scotland are highly dubious.
What's wrong with St George ? He is an adopted Patron saint of England, what exactly is your problem ? Do you have an alternative saint ? Or you just hate any form of patriotism ?

https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/vis ... s%20honour.
I didn't say there was anything wrong with him.
I'm just not clear on the connection.
Calm down dear.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 18:38
NWpostie wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 18:26
Woody Guthrie wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 15:01
I've never really understood the connection between England and St George or Scotland and St Andrew.

St David was Welsh so I get that and St Patrick was Irish but St George was a Palestinian/Greek serving in the Roman army who probably couldn't find England on a map and the stories of St Andrew visiting Scotland are highly dubious.
What's wrong with St George ? He is an adopted Patron saint of England, what exactly is your problem ? Do you have an alternative saint ? Or you just hate any form of patriotism ?

https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/vis ... s%20honour.
I didn't say there was anything wrong with him.
I'm just not clear on the connection.
Calm down dear.

England adopting St George as a Saint who embodies the English character, since Scottish devolution, Northern Ireland and Welsh Assembly, regional flags and Saints have been a stronger focus of national pride, there is no shame in that.
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There is only 1 form of patriotism that I hate with a passion and that's one that doesn't recognise different people show their patriotism in different ways.

My own opinion is that everyone has a right to show their patriotic views in any way they want as long as it's peaceful, respectful and legal. Even if I disagree with their politics, they still have a right to protest, indeed the act of protest is in its own way patriotic in a democracy.
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hans solo wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 18:21
first scottish supergroup part of my youth had the shirt, trousers ,and red satin bomber jacket those were the days will raise a glass and put rollin album on tonight
First Scottish super group were "Tear Gas". The Rollers were aimed at ten year old girls.
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Thought it was a simple query, I guess that the topic will now disappear into a multitude of tangents regarding history, mythology, religion, politics and Right-wing extremism. Ho Hum.
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I was nearly right, neglected to included Scottish supergroups!

Only flag I saw at the sites I visit was the Union Flag still at half mast following Prince Philip death.
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NWpostie wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 18:26
Woody Guthrie wrote:
23 Apr 2021, 15:01
I've never really understood the connection between England and St George or Scotland and St Andrew.

St David was Welsh so I get that and St Patrick was Irish but St George was a Palestinian/Greek serving in the Roman army who probably couldn't find England on a map and the stories of St Andrew visiting Scotland are highly dubious.
What's wrong with St George ? He is an adopted Patron saint of England, what exactly is your problem ? Do you have an alternative saint ? Or you just hate any form of patriotism ?

https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/vis ... s%20honour.
Wood's taking the piss out of our saint, just like we English take the piss out of.....everything..........scottish.

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I was married in Scotland
You do know it doesn't count of you get married in a foreign country don't you?I
It's like Vegas, they don't count either, I think/hope.

Wasn't taking the piss btw, genuinely don't get the patron saint thing but not religious so..
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