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HTPostman
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Post by HTPostman »

Seen quite a few posts about having to work later on Saturday, I don’t know what that’s all about. I assume with clocking in/out machines there’ll be no more Saturday flyers.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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HTPostman
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Post by HTPostman »

Someone on the union Facebook post said they hope average holiday pay is part of the agreement but that looks like a standalone issue, not seen anything from Martin on here, Terry/Dave or anyone else in the union to suggest it’s been part of the talks. Which would be a shame.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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clashcityrocker
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Post by clashcityrocker »

HTPostman wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 19:11
Which would be a shame.
Or a disgrace.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Martin Walsh
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Post by Martin Walsh »

The issue of average pay will be settled at the tribunal. We have test cases in the Bristol Tribunal.

Royal Mail only wanted a settlement based on discounting some areas of voluntary overtime or working. Clearly the CWU believe this has been tested already in the high court.

So no this was not part of the original dispute and will be decided in the tribunal and than will be subject to an overall agreement.
TheTrolleyMan
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Post by TheTrolleyMan »

I hope we get a vote on the offer , it'll be a big feck off no from me whatever I'm offered
dazer0070
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Post by dazer0070 »

TheTrolleyMan wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 20:00
I hope we get a vote on the offer , it'll be a big feck off no from me whatever I'm offered
You haven’t been in job very long I presume, as you would know we always get to vote on offers. Also how can you say you will vote no, without knowing what you disagree with???
aiden01
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Post by aiden01 »

TheTrolleyMan wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 20:00
I hope we get a vote on the offer , it'll be a big feck off no from me whatever I'm offered
Even if it is deal of the century part 2 :whistle
renrag40
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Post by renrag40 »

TheTrolleyMan wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 17:03
Could Terry Pullinger actually be BANKSY ?
NO...... Banksy has many talents ..... whereas Pullingers only talent is his ability to carry on trousering 2 grand a week of our subs. :Sick
ted_e_bear
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Post by ted_e_bear »

clashcityrocker wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 19:32
HTPostman wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 19:11
Which would be a shame.
Or a disgrace.
It is a disgrace, just like the pro-rata Christmas bonus for those of us that have contributed loads more than some of our colleagues but got less bonus for the sole reason that our contracted hours are lower than full time.
ddtc
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Post by ddtc »

Part timers are always left. Shouldn't the union help them out more anyway? They want more members and votes then start working for all our colleagues.
doob
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Post by doob »

I don’t really understand why the holiday back pay winds people up soo much. When I started on a 20 hour contract I knew that I’d only get 20 hours while on holiday. It’s what I signed up to. I worked a lot more hours than that but I still knew that was how it was. Also knowing I could only work 20 hours a week if I wanted. Yes I know managers try and bully u etc to do more but u could just do 20 hours if I wanted. Also if your contract gets moved up to full time over Xmas period then u do get the full bonus, u just get the extra bit in January.
ddtc
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Post by ddtc »

doob wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 21:44
I don’t really understand why the holiday back pay winds people up so much. When I started on a 20 hour contract I knew that I’d only get 20 hours while on holiday. It’s what I signed up to.
You maybe fine with what you signed up for. But are you really fine losing money you would of had as you know you would of worked more than your contract as usual if you weren't on holiday?

I had a colleague on a 20hr contract, never did he work them hours. He always worked 38/39 hours. Imagine his 4 wk holiday entitlement how much he would lose out per year. Is that right?

If RM need part timers like this then hire them as a full timer end of. We all know they save bucket loads because of this.
Cucumber
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Post by Cucumber »

HTPostman wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 19:07
Seen quite a few posts about having to work later on Saturday, I don’t know what that’s all about. I assume with clocking in/out machines there’ll be no more Saturday flyers.
Offices in the union HQ catchment area have traditionally kept their early finishes on Saturday.
Woody Guthrie
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

Martin Walsh wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 19:48
The issue of average pay will be settled at the tribunal. We have test cases in the Bristol Tribunal.

Royal Mail only wanted a settlement based on discounting some areas of voluntary overtime or working. Clearly the CWU believe this has been tested already in the high court.

So no this was not part of the original dispute and will be decided in the tribunal and than will be subject to an overall agreement.

What’s the plan b if the tribunal goes badly?
Only dead fish follow the current
renrag40
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Re: rumours

Post by renrag40 »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 23:38
Martin Walsh wrote:
19 Dec 2020, 19:48
The issue of average pay will be settled at the tribunal. We have test cases in the Bristol Tribunal.

Royal Mail only wanted a settlement based on discounting some areas of voluntary overtime or working. Clearly the CWU believe this has been tested already in the high court.

So no this was not part of the original dispute and will be decided in the tribunal and than will be subject to an overall agreement.

What’s the plan b if the tribunal goes badly?
In Pullingers case, probably to look at a few holiday brochures to plan his winter break. Keep the subs rolling in lads!!