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TheoF95
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Post by TheoF95 »

2yearpostie wrote:
TheoF95 wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:Im a reserve and for the last 3 years no one senior has been able to tell me what my actual start and finish times are,as it varies depending which walk im put on. The job ad was 7am-3pm 25 hrs a week, so i would need to start and finish as the business required.

How do i go on with the new clock machines do i just need the dom to tell me whats needed? I cant be the only one on this kind of contract?

I don't know how it works in your office but i'm also on a 25 hour contract, my job listing said 9:00-14:00. I work for rurals (SPDO's). I go between 18 different units. I claim the hours of the duty and adjust my start and finish times to match. So for example if i cover a walk in 1 office that is 7:00 - 14:36 i will claim 2:36 OT and start at 7:00 and claim extended if i go over or cut off if you don't want it. I don't think we have an official start time, it all depends on the walk you are covering but it will be different everywhere and i can imagine its different in the big offices.

Is your 5 hours for delivery only? if so then your start time will be the time your DOM tells you to start as long as your hours are between 7 & 3.. maybe.
Well i do get to asked to come in early to do double prep on top of my normal hours, wonder how the machine will work out if im just an 'in early' person or an 'asked to come in early to work' person?
I'm not sure but i know they will have something in place to be able to tell. It could have an option when you clock in for you to tell the system you have been asked to come in early? For example a drop down menu with an option "early start" and the DOM can authorize it and youll be paid or something similar.. maybe :D
2yearpostie
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Post by 2yearpostie »

toonshola wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
derekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt month
Ah another one of your fantasy conversations with higher management. Get a life.
Unless you work in my unit why dont you stop bullying me as you have no idea what may or may not have been said to me,.
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

toonshola wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
derekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt month
Ah another one of your fantasy conversations with higher management. Get a life.
Makes up nonsense on here every single week

Area manager said this, DOM said that, Area rep said this.....

Whatever gets ye through yer day mate
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
2yearpostie
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Post by 2yearpostie »

Acca Dacca wrote:
toonshola wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
derekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt month
Ah another one of your fantasy conversations with higher management. Get a life.
Makes up nonsense on here every single week

Area manager said this, DOM said that, Area rep said this.....

Whatever gets ye through yer day mate
Keep em coming, each one is getting reported to the mods as a personal attack.
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

2yearpostie wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
toonshola wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
derekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt month
Ah another one of your fantasy conversations with higher management. Get a life.
Makes up nonsense on here every single week

Area manager said this, DOM said that, Area rep said this.....

Whatever gets ye through yer day mate
Keep em coming, each one is getting reported to the mods as a personal attack.
All you are doing is alerting them to yet another one of your fear mongering posts with no substance to them

Your history of this stuff speaks for itself.

Even if you did genuinely hear what you claim you hear, which you didnt, you would think after the 10th bit of nonsense information didnt come to fruition you would stop posting it on here and getting people worried about nothing.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
2yearpostie
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Post by 2yearpostie »

Acca Dacca wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
toonshola wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
derekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt month
Ah another one of your fantasy conversations with higher management. Get a life.
Makes up nonsense on here every single week

Area manager said this, DOM said that, Area rep said this.....

Whatever gets ye through yer day mate
Keep em coming, each one is getting reported to the mods as a personal attack.
All you are doing is alerting them to your trolling

Your history of this stuff speaks for itself.

Even if you did genuinely hear what you claim you hear, which you didnt, you would think after the 10th bit of nonsense information didnt come to fruition you would stop posting it on here and getting people worried about nothing.
Im sorry, i dont recall you being at my unit or in the managers office with me when these things were said to me, so how can call me a liar?, If you bothered to search around the forum you would see that there are plenty of others on here who have been told to use there car or work afternoons, it might not have happened in your office for some reason but that doesnt mean mean the person passing on information is a liar or troll, it also dont give you the right to continually harass me whenever i ask for advice or post on here what is happening in my area, so piss off and leave me alone. if you were doing this in the workplace youd be dragged in for bullying and possibly sacked.
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

2yearpostie wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
toonshola wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
derekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt month
Ah another one of your fantasy conversations with higher management. Get a life.
Makes up nonsense on here every single week

Area manager said this, DOM said that, Area rep said this.....

Whatever gets ye through yer day mate
Keep em coming, each one is getting reported to the mods as a personal attack.
All you are doing is alerting them to your trolling

Your history of this stuff speaks for itself.

Even if you did genuinely hear what you claim you hear, which you didnt, you would think after the 10th bit of nonsense information didnt come to fruition you would stop posting it on here and getting people worried about nothing.
Im sorry, i dont recall you being at my unit or in the managers office with me when these things were said to me, so how can call me a liar?, If you bothered to search around the forum you would see that there are plenty of others on here who have been told to use there car or work afternoons, it might not have happened in your office for some reason but that doesnt mean mean the person passing on information is a liar or troll, it also dont give you the right to continually harass me whenever i ask for advice or post on here what is happening in my area, so piss off and leave me alone. if you were doing this in the workplace youd be dragged in for bullying and possibly sacked.
No I wouldnt

Keep it up - cant wait to hear what they tell you next so we all know what definitely ISN'T happening.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
2yearpostie
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Post by 2yearpostie »

Acca Dacca wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
toonshola wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
derekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt month
Ah another one of your fantasy conversations with higher management. Get a life.
Makes up nonsense on here every single week

Area manager said this, DOM said that, Area rep said this.....

Whatever gets ye through yer day mate
Keep em coming, each one is getting reported to the mods as a personal attack.
All you are doing is alerting them to your trolling

Your history of this stuff speaks for itself.

Even if you did genuinely hear what you claim you hear, which you didnt, you would think after the 10th bit of nonsense information didnt come to fruition you would stop posting it on here and getting people worried about nothing.
Im sorry, i dont recall you being at my unit or in the managers office with me when these things were said to me, so how can call me a liar?, If you bothered to search around the forum you would see that there are plenty of others on here who have been told to use there car or work afternoons, it might not have happened in your office for some reason but that doesnt mean mean the person passing on information is a liar or troll, it also dont give you the right to continually harass me whenever i ask for advice or post on here what is happening in my area, so piss off and leave me alone. if you were doing this in the workplace youd be dragged in for bullying and possibly sacked.
No I wouldnt

Keep it up - cant wait to hear what they tell you next so we all know what definitely ISN'T happening.
Harassing someone on a daily basis? theres laws against it mate so yeah the bosses would have a word with you.
2yearpostie
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Post by 2yearpostie »

From another thread, because 'i tell lies'

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On top of that, I’m stuck on afternoon shifts since van share ended – DOM told me I should look for another job if I can’t work afternoons and my contract doesn’t specify any hours of work. Which means that I’ll soon be delivering this walk in the dark, and it really isn't a safe walk to do in the dark.
John Gaita
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Post by John Gaita »

2yearpostie wrote:On top of that, I’m stuck on afternoon shifts since van share ended – DOM told me I should look for another job if I can’t work afternoons and my contract doesn’t specify any hours of work. Which means that I’ll soon be delivering this walk in the dark, and it really isn't a safe walk to do in the dark.
I wrote this and it is true.
2yearpostie
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Post by 2yearpostie »

John Gaita wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:On top of that, I’m stuck on afternoon shifts since van share ended – DOM told me I should look for another job if I can’t work afternoons and my contract doesn’t specify any hours of work. Which means that I’ll soon be delivering this walk in the dark, and it really isn't a safe walk to do in the dark.
I wrote this and it is true.
Sorry mate didnt mean to drag you into something so petty!
Acca Dacca
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Post by Acca Dacca »

2yearpostie wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
toonshola wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
derekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt month
Ah another one of your fantasy conversations with higher management. Get a life.
Makes up nonsense on here every single week

Area manager said this, DOM said that, Area rep said this.....

Whatever gets ye through yer day mate
Keep em coming, each one is getting reported to the mods as a personal attack.
All you are doing is alerting them to your trolling

Your history of this stuff speaks for itself.

Even if you did genuinely hear what you claim you hear, which you didnt, you would think after the 10th bit of nonsense information didnt come to fruition you would stop posting it on here and getting people worried about nothing.
Im sorry, i dont recall you being at my unit or in the managers office with me when these things were said to me, so how can call me a liar?, If you bothered to search around the forum you would see that there are plenty of others on here who have been told to use there car or work afternoons, it might not have happened in your office for some reason but that doesnt mean mean the person passing on information is a liar or troll, it also dont give you the right to continually harass me whenever i ask for advice or post on here what is happening in my area, so piss off and leave me alone. if you were doing this in the workplace youd be dragged in for bullying and possibly sacked.
No I wouldnt

Keep it up - cant wait to hear what they tell you next so we all know what definitely ISN'T happening.
Harassing someone on a daily basis? theres laws against it mate so yeah the bosses would have a word with you.
First of all, ive not posted about you on a ''daily basis''
Second of all, if you went to anyone with what ive posted on this thread you'd get laughed back out the office
Third of all - you are quite the snowflake for a Trump supporter. I'd hate to see you put up with anything resembling REAL bullying.

Anyway im done with this thread and you - if it keeps you happy I will ignore all your future postings.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
NewPostieUK
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Post by NewPostieUK »

2yearpostie wrote:Im a reserve and for the last 3 years no one senior has been able to tell me what my actual start and finish times
Tell your manager that you don't know what time you will finish every day, and it's becoming a problem. You need to know your finish time. Tell him you'd like it in writing. If he doesn't know, he will find out.

For the six years I was a reserve, I had a start and finish time. I started the same time no matter what duty I was on. Sometimes it was a problem, on van share a partner would want to know why I was in 'late' and we were supposed to be out by then. This is my start time, I would say, if you have a problem, see the manager.

If the hours of some duties mean that by the end of the week you owe, or are owed, hours, then you shouldn't be doing those duties.
HTPostman
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Post by HTPostman »

Back on topic.

I’m in a similar situation. On a 25 hour contract (5 days), but my start time is usually 7.25/7.30/8 etc as I do morning OT. I have seen my OT being recorded and from that it looks like my actual hours are 10 till 3 Monday, Tuesday, Saturday and 10.25 till 3.25 the rest of the week.

As for the clocking in machines being able to tell, I’ve no idea how it will work. That’s for higher up to sort and if it cocks up and I’m incorrectly paid I’ll simply clock in at my actual start time (10 or 10.25) and have a nice quiet working week. Makes no difference to me.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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2yearpostie
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Re: no start finish time

Post by 2yearpostie »

Acca Dacca wrote:
09 Sep 2020, 16:35
2yearpostie wrote:
Acca Dacca wrote:
toonshola wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
derekm wrote:Clocking out machine ????? Does your office have these in place ? Thought it was something they are looking to do.
my DOM thinks we will have one by the end of nxt month
Ah another one of your fantasy conversations with higher management. Get a life.
Makes up nonsense on here every single week

Area manager said this, DOM said that, Area rep said this.....

Whatever gets ye through yer day mate
Keep em coming, each one is getting reported to the mods as a personal attack.
All you are doing is alerting them to yet another one of your fear mongering posts with no substance to them

Your history of this stuff speaks for itself.

Even if you did genuinely hear what you claim you hear, which you didnt, you would think after the 10th bit of nonsense information didnt come to fruition you would stop posting it on here and getting people worried about nothing.
Well it might be 2 years late, but seems I was right afterall. I didnt realise how slowly everything moves at RM at the time though.