Can anyone explain this to me

Post by **Baxter** » 19 Oct 2007, 15:43

Got the post today, and there was stuff missing. one envelope was open with a passport and voters role letter missing. The rest was still there. it was supposed to be signed for but there want a sticker for it. And one of the other envelope's was opened with wage slips missing. Both envelope's were from different companys. Does anyone know what could of happened.

somerset · Post by **somerset** » 19 Oct 2007, 15:50

Baxter wrote:Got the post today, and there was stuff missing. one envelope was open with a passport and voters role letter missing. The rest was still there. it was supposed to be signed for but there want a sticker for it. And one of the other envelope's was opened with wage slips missing. Both envelope's were from different companys. Does anyone know what could of happened.

First check with the sender they should have proof of posting? Then if it is royal mail go to their site and try track and trace with the consignment number on it. Take it from there? That is if it is royal mail and not one of the cowboy companies.

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 19 Oct 2007, 15:51

It's possible your mail has been mis-delivered to another address, where it has been opened in error and the recipient has posted in to you.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 19 Oct 2007, 15:54

If a passport is missing it should be reported to the police and/or issuing authority. If you report it to the police our IB may bet involved as well.

Post by **Baxter** » 19 Oct 2007, 16:44

Thanks for the replys
@brisomerset
Just contacted the senders and there taking it up with royal mail. just waiting for them to call back now.

@IWW Fellow Worker
i dont think it was mis-delivered. Why would someone go to the trouble to post it back and not use a sealed envelope and/or put the contents back in.
It could happen but doesnt seem likely.

@TrueBlueTerrier
We were told to take the envelope's to the police station. which we have done, but i cant imagine anything coming from that.
I'll keep the thread updated when i make more progress. Thanks everyone.

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 19 Oct 2007, 16:49

Baxter wrote:@IWW Fellow Worker
i dont think it was mis-delivered. Why would someone go to the trouble to post it back and not use a sealed envelope and/or put the contents back in.
It could happen but doesnt seem likely.

You would be surprised. A couple of weeks ago, a birth certificate was posted to a number 4 on my delivery instead of the proper number which was 7. Despite the peron in number 7's name being on it, the person in number 4 opened it, then re-posted it without sealing it up. I did what any postman/woman should do, and got the item officially sealed.

littleshit · Post by **littleshit** » 19 Oct 2007, 21:07

royalmail dont deliver passports do they?

Post by **baldrick** » 19 Oct 2007, 21:26

No. They are delivered by a 'specialist' courier company who also deliver credit cards - SMS.

At least the ones sent out by the Passport Office are.

Spedley · Post by **Spedley** » 19 Oct 2007, 21:58

I deliver passports (returned from the DVLA etc) and cashcards.

There are very few of us that are crooked and using another courier is probably more risky, despite what the press might say.

I'd also contact your delivery office and speak to the DOM. Even if there is an honest explaination peoples jobs are at stake and local enquiries should be made official.

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 19 Oct 2007, 22:03

I would'nt trust the Courier firms that deliver the passports, we've had loads of surcharges in where the Courier has just dumped them in a post box.

Post by **moanmoanmoan** » 19 Oct 2007, 22:10

IWW Fellow Worker wrote:
Baxter wrote:@IWW Fellow Worker
i dont think it was mis-delivered. Why would someone go to the trouble to post it back and not use a sealed envelope and/or put the contents back in.
It could happen but doesnt seem likely.
You would be surprised. A couple of weeks ago, a birth certificate was posted to a number 4 on my delivery instead of the proper number which was 7. Despite the peron in number 7's name being on it, the person in number 4 opened it, then re-posted it without sealing it up. I did what any postman/woman should do, and got the item officially sealed.

Well done comrade. That is the correct action - if a little conformist!!

Post by **baldrick** » 19 Oct 2007, 22:56

k66yla wrote:I would'nt trust the Courier firms that deliver the passports, we've had loads of surcharges in where the Courier has just dumped them in a post box.

SMS only deliver on a weekday between 9-5, when most people are at work. When I got my new passport, they left a card saying that they had tried to deliver it and that I had to ring them to arrange a new delivery date. when I rang them I got a long recorded/automated message which just gave me another delivery date - and I would have to be in all day 9-5. I rang the Passport Office and got them to send it by RM Special Delivery as at least I could then collect it from the DO if I wasn't in when the postie called.

littleshit · Post by **littleshit** » 19 Oct 2007, 23:40

So Baxter the question is was the passport sent from the passport office?

andy2007 · Post by **andy2007** » 20 Oct 2007, 10:47

Baxter wrote:Thanks for the replys
@brisomerset
Just contacted the senders and there taking it up with royal mail. just waiting for them to call back now.

@IWW Fellow Worker
i dont think it was mis-delivered. Why would someone go to the trouble to post it back and not use a sealed envelope and/or put the contents back in.
It could happen but doesnt seem likely.

@TrueBlueTerrier
We were told to take the envelope's to the police station. which we have done, but i cant imagine anything coming from that.
I'll keep the thread updated when i make more progress. Thanks everyone.

The Police needed the envelopes for evedence, so that when someone tries to use your identity, they will be ready for them. If it is a known offender, there is also the chance that they coiuld get fingerprints from it, so they could track them down. Identity theft is a big problem these days.

The biggest problem though, is the number of casuals/agency that are being brought in. The vast majority of them are decent honest people, who just want to make a living. But we do sometimes get dishonest people coming in, and it's the IBs job to find, sack, and if neccessary prosecute them.

Post by **Trends Guild** » 20 Oct 2007, 12:14

andy2007 wrote:
Baxter wrote:Thanks for the replys
@brisomerset
Just contacted the senders and there taking it up with royal mail. just waiting for them to call back now.

@IWW Fellow Worker
i dont think it was mis-delivered. Why would someone go to the trouble to post it back and not use a sealed envelope and/or put the contents back in.
It could happen but doesnt seem likely.

@TrueBlueTerrier
We were told to take the envelope's to the police station. which we have done, but i cant imagine anything coming from that.
I'll keep the thread updated when i make more progress. Thanks everyone.
The Police needed the envelopes for evedence, so that when someone tries to use your identity, they will be ready for them. If it is a known offender, there is also the chance that they coiuld get fingerprints from it, so they could track them down. Identity theft is a big problem these days.

The biggest problem though, is the number of casuals/agency that are being brought in. The vast majority of them are decent honest people, who just want to make a living. But we do sometimes get dishonest people coming in, and it's the IBs job to find, sack, and if neccessary prosecute them.

Indeed. I was quite shocked that the RM used casuals at all.
Trust is the thing which makes you (posties) worth the most money IMV.

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