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will angard AWR staff get the back pay and pay rise from apr

An 'unofficial' forum for those who either work for Royal Mail or are looking to work for Royal Mail through the Angard Staffing Agency.This is an open forum.
asap99
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will angard AWR staff get the back pay and pay rise from apr

Post by asap99 »

As an angard AWR temp will I be getting the back pay from april2013 like the posties?
and if not why not?
AWR means the same pay as the regular worker.
Bazza01
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asap99 wrote:As an angard AWR temp will I be getting the back pay from april2013 like the posties?
and if not why not?
AWR means the same pay as the regular worker.
I have thought about this as well and asked the question on this site before see the new agreement section.
The answer I would think is NO because we work for Angard and not Royal Mail direct however I live in hope although I would have thought we should have heard by now. Royal Mail weekly paid staff should get their backdated pay next Friday 21st.
Verging
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Bazza01 wrote:
asap99 wrote:As an angard AWR temp will I be getting the back pay from april2013 like the posties?
and if not why not?
AWR means the same pay as the regular worker.
I have thought about this as well and asked the question on this site before see the new agreement section.
The answer I would think is NO because we work for Angard and not Royal Mail direct however I live in hope although I would have thought we should have heard by now. Royal Mail weekly paid staff should get their backdated pay next Friday 21st.
When the RM permanent staff got their pay rise in 2012 we received the same increase in our pay. Hence, I do expect the increase as this will keep our pay in line with the permanents and compatible with AWR. I would also anticipate the back pay too - again to keep us in line for AWR purposes. What I do not expect is for this to go smoothly and a number of attempts will be made to work out the back pay. We will probably need to badger them for the back pay.

Have the permanents received the increase yet?
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asap99
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Re: will angard AWR staff get the back pay and pay rise from

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As an Awr temp for angard or any other agency for that matter,I will never be employed by the company that I am assigned to work at.Hence AWR, giving us the same pay as the employed worker.so if this the case then surely it could only be called "AWR Avoidance" .plain and simple.?
Verging
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asap99 wrote:As an Awr temp for angard or any other agency for that matter,I will never be employed by the company that I am assigned to work at.Hence AWR, giving us the same pay as the employed worker.so if this the case then surely it could only be called "AWR Avoidance" .plain and simple.?
If they don't pay they will be failing in their obligation under the rules of AWR but we don't yet know what is going to happen. Have you called or contacted payroll or Northampton to find out what they are going to do?
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asap99
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Verging wrote:
asap99 wrote:As an Awr temp for angard or any other agency for that matter,I will never be employed by the company that I am assigned to work at.Hence AWR, giving us the same pay as the employed worker.so if this the case then surely it could only be called "AWR Avoidance" .plain and simple.?
If they don't pay they will be failing in their obligation under the rules of AWR but we don't yet know what is going to happen. Have you called or contacted payroll or Northampton to find out what they are going to do?
angard say they don't know if and when,they said there waiting on royal mail to get in touch ,and balance of staff at our DC say they don't know "they only book the temps" .
Minischoles
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Well it's not in the payslips for payment this Friday so not sure if we will be getting it, emailed angard and they don't seem to know.
Bazza01
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Minischoles wrote:Well it's not in the payslips for payment this Friday so not sure if we will be getting it, emailed angard and they don't seem to know.
I think we would have heard by now I would just like a shift at the moment it has not been this quiet for quite a while.
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Bazza01 wrote:
Minischoles wrote:Well it's not in the payslips for payment this Friday so not sure if we will be getting it, emailed angard and they don't seem to know.
I think we would have heard by now I would just like a shift at the moment it has not been this quiet for quite a while.
Angard are not known for communicating anything successfully or well - I wouldn't expect to hear but expect it to just be done eventually. I never heard anything about any increase I have received - just suddenly an increase happening for work I have done. Then I asked questions as to why (i.e. increase in 2012 in line with permanents, increase after both 6 and 12 months service all just happened).
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Minischoles
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Angard replied to my email finally. Apparently Royal Mail are working on a document regarding it and we'll receive that in the next 14 days.
Bazza01
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Has anyone heard anything else other than angard are meant to be paying the monies sometime this month ?
Verging
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Not heard anything but I am expecting to be paid on the last possible day they are allowed to pay. No reason for them to pay early and lose the interest payments on the money owed.
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Got an email on Friday, they are paying out on the 28th March - you get 3.0% payrise, plus 12.07% on that pay (to account for holiday pay).

Altogether you get 3.36% on anything you've earned since April last year, before tax.
Verging
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The last possible day they can pay.
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We haven't all got that email by the look of it.............

What about holiday pay accrued this week? the usual problem! I've been paid/claimed holiday accrued up until 14 th March.