Lies Royal Mail Lies -Union failure

[TrueBlueTerrier]

If our shares are worth nothing, how come we are still being 'regulated' into delivering other companys mail for a loss by our regulator?

[cyclesareus]

I sympatise with your plight mate, and as for the idiots in your office laughing about it, maybe they will reap what they sow. I dont have ant magical soloution for you but have you asked to get the walk tested out on the street. Most DOMs run a mile at this because they know that nearly all walks where regular posties are struggling to complete are bound to be undoable, especially if tested following RMs own rules (no walking and reading, no cutting out paths, waiting 2 minutes at a door for Packets and RDs etc) The backing of your colleagues in your office would have been nice, but i`d be going up the union ladder to get proper help with this if it was me, because they should not leave you out to dry.
keep calm at all times, and learn THEIR rules, because most DOMs dont even know them and believe it or not most will justify why you are struggling. GOOD LUCK.

Well said! Exactly right and we SHOULD learn the rules to the letter AND APPLY THEM RIGOROUSLY. It's a Health and Safety. We have posters all over the office telling us how important H&S rules are - the soft option, easy touch of helmets and hi-vis jackets comes to mind immediately. As well as no walking and reading, no cutting out paths, waiting 2 minutes at a door for Packets and RDs etc, we should not forget pouch weight limits and cycle faults as well, for example. If your bell doesn't work or your rear reflector is missing it is ILLEGAL to go on the public highway. Noone could critisize any worker for applying the H&S rules - it's his duty under the terms of his employment contract. If we all did it properly Royal Mail would feel the pinch immediately and then, perhaps, start to get real.

Cheers all,
Cyclesareus

[patman.post]

right folks am bein straight now ,all this bull s**t everyone is typin(says me now) if you think the company is shite WHY DONT YOU LEAVE THEN and work for tnt or dhl and all the other list of shite carriers were you have to work till the end of a shift.at least with the shite company you work for its job and finish.i no the jobs shite but who do you no who got a payrise this year av got mates who work for the other carriers and did they crap get a pay rise.ok £5.60 was it better then a kick in the arse dont ye think,so stop fu@@@ moanin about the company if you dont like it fu@@ off simple

well said maisymoo; where else can you get this sort of money for virtually nothing. we all know the conditions are crap but it's money for old rope. make the most of a bad job and protect what you can of your pension, if anything!

[flyingsam]

right folks am bein straight now ,all this bull s**t everyone is typin(says me now) if you think the company is shite WHY DONT YOU LEAVE THEN and work for tnt or dhl and all the other list of shite carriers were you have to work till the end of a shift.at least with the shite company you work for its job and finish.i no the jobs shite but who do you no who got a payrise this year av got mates who work for the other carriers and did they crap get a pay rise.ok £5.60 was it better then a kick in the arse dont ye think,so stop fu@@@ moanin about the company if you dont like it fu@@ off simple

well said maisymoo; where else can you get this sort of money for virtually nothing. we all know the conditions are crap but it's money for old rope. make the most of a bad job and protect what you can of your pension, if anything!

good shout patman,jupiters cock,with RM you get to job and finish,I find it hard to make my work last more then 25 hours a week,then I go and do another job in RM time,still paid for 40,have 5 weeks holiday,plus 6 weeks paid sick holiday,job and finish,then you can get on with your life,jupiters cock some people don't know when to keep their mouth and stop moanin about a good thing.TTFN

[chunk]

flying sam is a ball-shooter. i shy away from personnel attacks but i have worked in every
delivery office in my county bar 2.
during my stint as a reserve!
there are offices with greater and lesser workloads but

the notion that any postman gets paid 15 hours a week for doing nothing.
and can have 6 weeks sick without triggering disciplinary proceedings
beggars belief.
are these troll posts or just designed to give posties a bad name.
patman another joker is a first time poster are you guys tag teaming.

[arnold cheshire]

flying sam is a ball-shooter. i shy away from personnel attacks but i have worked in every
delivery office in my county bar 2.
during my stint as a reserve!
there are offices with greater and lesser workloads but

the notion that any postman gets paid 15 hours a week for doing nothing.
and can have 6 weeks sick without triggering disciplinary proceedings
beggars belief.
are these troll posts or just designed to give posties a bad name.
patman another joker is a first time poster are you guys tag teaming.

is this a mickey take ??????????????????????????? no post code covers all delivery office in a county

[TrueBlueTerrier]

flying sam is a ball-shooter. i shy away from personnel attacks but i have worked in every
delivery office in my county bar 2.
during my stint as a reserve!
there are offices with greater and lesser workloads but

the notion that any postman gets paid 15 hours a week for doing nothing.
and can have 6 weeks sick without triggering disciplinary proceedings
beggars belief.
are these troll posts or just designed to give posties a bad name.
patman another joker is a first time poster are you guys tag teaming.

is this a mickey take ??????????????????????????? no post code covers all delivery office in a county

have worked in every delivery office in my county bar 2.

does not equate to

post code covers all delivery office in a county

He could move between the postcodes that are in his county. Couldn't he

[chunk]

flying sam is a ball-shooter. i shy away from personnel attacks but i have worked in every
delivery office in my county bar 2.
during my stint as a reserve!
there are offices with greater and lesser workloads but

the notion that any postman gets paid 15 hours a week for doing nothing.
and can have 6 weeks sick without triggering disciplinary proceedings
beggars belief.
are these troll posts or just designed to give posties a bad name.
patman another joker is a first time poster are you guys tag teaming.

is this a mickey take ??????????????????????????? no post code covers all delivery office in a county

Yes i was often "borrowed" for whole weeks at a time ,and claimed milage for it.
I dont do it anymore since I reckoned up wear and tear etc.
And resent having to chase up money im owed when im doing them a favour?

For the record i dont understand your post?
Every office has a different code?
You work in a nieghbouring office you work in a different code.

[arnold cheshire]

flying sam is a ball-shooter. i shy away from personnel attacks but i have worked in every
delivery office in my county bar 2.
during my stint as a reserve!
there are offices with greater and lesser workloads but

the notion that any postman gets paid 15 hours a week for doing nothing.
and can have 6 weeks sick without triggering disciplinary proceedings
beggars belief.
are these troll posts or just designed to give posties a bad name.
patman another joker is a first time poster are you guys tag teaming.

is this a mickey take ??????????????????????????? no post code covers all delivery office in a county

have worked in every delivery office in my county bar 2.

He could move between the postcodes that are in his county. Couldn't he

so say in a county you could have rt 1-22 then ty 1-22 maybe possible going from rt1 to rt2 etc but to ty ???????

[ebbzie]

One of the problems we have with this "share" issue is the fooking useless union we have!
Went on the cwu website "nothing" for ages about it!
Is this going to end as things normally do , with our union saying "we have negotiated a deal for you where you all get shafted again"
Our union is fast becoming a joke
We should be walking out the door until this "fiddle" is sorted out

[16years]

Got my sick days all sorted and ready to go. Play the system, don't do anything more than you have to and take all RM promises with a pinch of salt. It's just a job and at the end of the week you get your dosh. No more, no less. Do your hours collect your wages and forget about the shite till next day. Oh yeah and put your ipod headphones in when the manager does his silly school master team bollockings

[flyingsam]

flying sam is a ball-shooter. i shy away from personnel attacks but i have worked in every
delivery office in my county bar 2.
during my stint as a reserve!
there are offices with greater and lesser workloads but

the notion that any postman gets paid 15 hours a week for doing nothing.
and can have 6 weeks sick without triggering disciplinary proceedings
beggars belief.
are these troll posts or just designed to give posties a bad name.
patman another joker is a first time poster are you guys tag teaming.

patman is right, if people don't like their job, then walk.simples.

[BELIAL]

flying sam is a ball-shooter. i shy away from personnel attacks but i have worked in every
delivery office in my county bar 2.
during my stint as a reserve!
there are offices with greater and lesser workloads but

the notion that any postman gets paid 15 hours a week for doing nothing.
and can have 6 weeks sick without triggering disciplinary proceedings
beggars belief.
are these troll posts or just designed to give posties a bad name.
patman another joker is a first time poster are you guys tag teaming.

patman is right, if people don't like their job, then walk.simples.

Need anyone say more. LMFT'sO

[TrueBlueTerrier]

patman is right, if people don't like their job, then walk.simples.

Need anyone say more. LMFT'sO

I am trying not to slag of people who hold the "simple" view that if you don't like it leave, but it strikes me they tend to transfer their common sense skills and IQ level into that bosses phrase. It ain't simple to leave and anyway why should they, if everyone who did not like the job as it was, left without trying to change it, our T&Cs would be far worse than they are now.

So for everyone who stays despite not liking the job, and are staying in an attempt to slow down the attacks or even to improve our lot - you have my thanks, but apparently not from what appears to be the "Thatcher Kids" generation who seem to be joining the work force lately.

[chunk]

it goes back to the fundamentals of the employment contract.
i offer you my labor- i offer you x pay.
people often forget that it has two sides.

why should one side constantly seek to change the nature of the contract.
postmen have there bikes removed and replaced by trolleys only months later their rounds are park and loop
the same postmen find their small office is closed and incorporated into a bigger office 10 miles away hence they travel further into work.
my point:
If every postman who didnt like change left.... you compliant smug types would be lonely !..and left to pick up the pieces.
something else i learned from another industry i worked in.
when a job is challenging it weeds out the lazy and the unsuitable.
so eventually you end up with a robust workforce. The flip side is that when management turn your your job into
something totally unachievable the reverse happens! people who can see the writing on the wall start to leave.
and since it easier to leave if your qualified or have other skills.even people with high moral standards leave ie they refuse to be bullied.
in short bullying degrades the workforce.im certainly not saying we that are left are not all the ticket! just that the people that are leaving now
are often our best.
"All the people with get up and go... They got up and and went.."