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Sean06
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by Sean06 »

Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:13
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:03
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:25
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 17:34
Walter sobchak wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:31
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:24
Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.
Which would be?
Well the 1st offer 650 million over 3 years 2nd one was 840 million over 3 years not sure what 3rd one was but did hear union want 1.2 billion over 3years.
So at £50 million for each 1%, that's 13% and 17% and the cwu want 24% over 3 years. :hmmmm
Only letting you know what i am being told from somebody in the know.
I don't think even Tweedledee and Tweedledum are stupid enough to think they'll get 24%, unless it's at the expense of loads of terms and conditions.
Yellowbelly has just published latest ltb have a look for yourself.clearly says the negotiators have turned down 3 above inflation pay increases.
Jefferson Starfish
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by Jefferson Starfish »

Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:17
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:13
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:03
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:25
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 17:34
Walter sobchak wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:31
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:24
Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.
Which would be?
Well the 1st offer 650 million over 3 years 2nd one was 840 million over 3 years not sure what 3rd one was but did hear union want 1.2 billion over 3years.
So at £50 million for each 1%, that's 13% and 17% and the cwu want 24% over 3 years. :hmmmm
Only letting you know what i am being told from somebody in the know.
I don't think even Tweedledee and Tweedledum are stupid enough to think they'll get 24%, unless it's at the expense of loads of terms and conditions.
Yellowbelly has just published latest ltb have a look for yourself.clearly says the negotiators have turned down 3 above inflation pay increases.
The current rate is 2.6%, cpi.
postmanpatscat2
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by postmanpatscat2 »

For 24% pay rise then can bend me ova the table and take my ass once a month!
Jefferson Starfish
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by Jefferson Starfish »

postmanpatscat2 wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:31
For 24% pay rise then can bend me ova the table and take my ass once a month!
It'll need to be 3 times a night mate :left:
SkiSunday
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by SkiSunday »

Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:03
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:25
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 17:34
Walter sobchak wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:31
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:24
Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.
Which would be?
Well the 1st offer 650 million over 3 years 2nd one was 840 million over 3 years not sure what 3rd one was but did hear union want 1.2 billion over 3years.
So at £50 million for each 1%, that's 13% and 17% and the cwu want 24% over 3 years. :hmmmm
Only letting you know what i am being told from somebody in the know.
In other words... trust me bro
BELIAL
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by BELIAL »

Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:17
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:13
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:03
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:25
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 17:34
Walter sobchak wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:31
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:24
Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.
Which would be?
Well the 1st offer 650 million over 3 years 2nd one was 840 million over 3 years not sure what 3rd one was but did hear union want 1.2 billion over 3years.
So at £50 million for each 1%, that's 13% and 17% and the cwu want 24% over 3 years. :hmmmm
Only letting you know what i am being told from somebody in the know.
I don't think even Tweedledee and Tweedledum are stupid enough to think they'll get 24%, unless it's at the expense of loads of terms and conditions.
Yellowbelly has just published latest ltb have a look for yourself.clearly says the negotiators have turned down 3 above inflation pay increases.
Oh s**t Martin must be pushing for a 0% pay rise over ten years to secure the long term sustainability of quality industry leading jobs.There is no plan B.
Bye
fitz15
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by fitz15 »

Why do you need two weeks to sort out a few minor issues rubbish.
ted_e_bear
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by ted_e_bear »

Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:13
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:03
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:25
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 17:34
Walter sobchak wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:31
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:24
Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.
Which would be?
Well the 1st offer 650 million over 3 years 2nd one was 840 million over 3 years not sure what 3rd one was but did hear union want 1.2 billion over 3years.
So at £50 million for each 1%, that's 13% and 17% and the cwu want 24% over 3 years. :hmmmm
Only letting you know what i am being told from somebody in the know.
I don't think even Tweedledee and Tweedledum are stupid enough to think they'll get 24%, unless it's at the expense of loads of terms and conditions.
Good point it'll be billed as a big rise but in reality not so much if some supplements go, tbh I'd prefer the delivery supplement to be incorporated into basic pay for delivery posties as it'd mean a bit more paid into our pensions and finally put a stop to people still thinking it's for d2ds.
BenacreNick
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by BenacreNick »

Ted-e-bear, do we not get paid for D2D's ? :left:
SpacePhoenix
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by SpacePhoenix »

ted_e_bear wrote:
17 May 2025, 06:00
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:13
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 20:03
Jefferson Starfish wrote:
16 May 2025, 18:25
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 17:34
Walter sobchak wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:31
Sean06 wrote:
16 May 2025, 16:24
Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.
Which would be?
Well the 1st offer 650 million over 3 years 2nd one was 840 million over 3 years not sure what 3rd one was but did hear union want 1.2 billion over 3years.
So at £50 million for each 1%, that's 13% and 17% and the cwu want 24% over 3 years. :hmmmm
Only letting you know what i am being told from somebody in the know.
I don't think even Tweedledee and Tweedledum are stupid enough to think they'll get 24%, unless it's at the expense of loads of terms and conditions.
Good point it'll be billed as a big rise but in reality not so much if some supplements go, tbh I'd prefer the delivery supplement to be incorporated into basic pay for delivery posties as it'd mean a bit more paid into our pensions and finally put a stop to people still thinking it's for d2ds.
Sadly I think it's more likely that within the next few years all allowances and supplements will be gone for everyone with none of them being rolled into basic pay. I wouldn't bank on us keeping paid breaks either.
postslippete
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by postslippete »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:23

Sadly I think it's more likely that within the next few years all allowances and supplements will be gone for everyone with none of them being rolled into basic pay. I wouldn't bank on us keeping paid breaks either.

Aye, they won't scrap them all at once but instead keep recruiting new staff that don't have them in their contract whilst quietly pressuring the older staff out until there is no one left to defend them. There is no legal right for paid breaks and in our office we are allowed to leave 20 minutes early due to it so I hope that the Union don't negotiate this one away.

Once paid breaks, set rotas, job security and reasonable allowances are gone what do we have left?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
postmanzach
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by postmanzach »

postslippete wrote:
17 May 2025, 22:48
SpacePhoenix wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:23

Sadly I think it's more likely that within the next few years all allowances and supplements will be gone for everyone with none of them being rolled into basic pay. I wouldn't bank on us keeping paid breaks either.

Aye, they won't scrap them all at once but instead keep recruiting new staff that don't have them in their contract whilst quietly pressuring the older staff out until there is no one left to defend them. There is no legal right for paid breaks and in our office we are allowed to leave 20 minutes early due to it so I hope that the Union don't negotiate this one away.

Once paid breaks, set rotas, job security and reasonable allowances are gone what do we have left?
Nothing.. that’s why new entrants quit quickly and go work for Amazon
hewittinspain
EX ROYAL MAIL
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by hewittinspain »

Inflation this morning has gone up to 3.5%. union have rejected offers over that (probably by .1 and .2)
We need to be looking at the minimum 5% and that is just for this year
postmanpatscat2
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Gender: Male

Re: Pay rise %

Post by postmanpatscat2 »

hewittinspain wrote:
21 May 2025, 08:04
Inflation this morning has gone up to 3.5%. union have rejected offers over that (probably by .1 and .2)
We need to be looking at the minimum 5% and that is just for this year
When do we find out what the are offering?
N|M
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Re: Pay rise %

Post by N|M »

postmanpatscat2 wrote:
21 May 2025, 08:40
hewittinspain wrote:
21 May 2025, 08:04
Inflation this morning has gone up to 3.5%. union have rejected offers over that (probably by .1 and .2)
We need to be looking at the minimum 5% and that is just for this year
When do we find out what the are offering?
possibly around 30th May or another update on how talks are going.
Royal Mail have expressed their desire to reach an agreement, and we will continue with negotiations next week and our aim is to reach an overall agreement by the time the transaction completes on 30th May 2025.