Pay rise %

[Rommagic]

No news is good news.

[SkiSunday]

No news is good news.

Unless the news is about postie pay rises.

[Jefferson Starfish]

https://www.myroyalmail.com/news/2025/0 ... -pay-talks

Over the last three weeks Royal Mail and the CWU have been engaged in talks on pay and other topics set out in the agreement with EP Group.

Those talks have been constructive, and progress has been made. Both parties have recognised though that further time is needed to reach full agreement. Negotiations will therefore continue over the next two weeks with the joint aim of reaching agreement before Friday 30 May 2025.

We are committed to delivering a fair and equitable pay agreement that ensures we can maintain the best terms and conditions in the industry. We do, however, need the pay deal to be affordable, after two years of significant losses and with our costs continuing to rise.

We will keep you updated. In the meantime, thank you for your continued hard work and commitment to the business.

[Sean06]

Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.

[Walter sobchak]

https://www.myroyalmail.com/news/2025/0 ... -pay-talks

Over the last three weeks Royal Mail and the CWU have been engaged in talks on pay and other topics set out in the agreement with EP Group.

Those talks have been constructive, and progress has been made. Both parties have recognised though that further time is needed to reach full agreement. Negotiations will therefore continue over the next two weeks with the joint aim of reaching agreement before Friday 30 May 2025.

We are committed to delivering a fair and equitable pay agreement that ensures we can maintain the best terms and conditions in the industry. We do, however, need the pay deal to be affordable, after two years of significant losses and with our costs continuing to rise.

We will keep you updated. In the meantime, thank you for your continued hard work and commitment to the business.

Key words are “affordable”, “significant losses” and “costs continuing to rise”

I sense a 1.5% pay rise is coming.

[Walter sobchak]

Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.

Which would be?

[fitz15]

Get the ballot papers ready

[qwerty2]

Get the ballot papers ready

…. off - left the union years ago but went to nearly every picket line the last strikes
Next time I’ll cross the line

[Sean06]

Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.

Which would be?

Well the 1st offer 650 million over 3 years 2nd one was 840 million over 3 years not sure what 3rd one was but did hear union want 1.2 billion over 3years.

[Sean06]

Get the ballot papers ready

…. off - left the union years ago but went to nearly every picket line the last strikes
Next time I’ll cross the line

[oypostie]

Next time there won't be a picket line unless Dave and co are gone

[Jefferson Starfish]

Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.

Which would be?

Well the 1st offer 650 million over 3 years 2nd one was 840 million over 3 years not sure what 3rd one was but did hear union want 1.2 billion over 3years.

So at £50 million for each 1%, that's 13% and 17% and the cwu want 24% over 3 years.

[postslippete]

Apologies if this thread turned political as I thought it might end with the first point that I made, but we all have our own views.

From everything that we have seen over the past few years a 'decent' pay rise is unlikely unless we are prepared to fight for it. RM has a long history of dragging things out and pushing it to the wire in the hope that we settle for whatever crumbs they offer at last minute. Suggesting that "they need the deal to be affordable" is designed to lower our expectations and soften up the members by framing it as the best that we can get right now.

Instead of trying to build any leverage in the pay talks the CWU is talking like it is managing expectations instead by repeating RM's line about affordability and losses. The CWU has not published or provided members with a clear, quantifiable pay demand (there was a rumour that they were asking for 10%) but without a clear benchmark from official comms, its difficult to hold the CWU accountable.

[Sean06]

Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.

Which would be?

Well the 1st offer 650 million over 3 years 2nd one was 840 million over 3 years not sure what 3rd one was but did hear union want 1.2 billion over 3years.

So at £50 million for each 1%, that's 13% and 17% and the cwu want 24% over 3 years.

Only letting you know what i am being told from somebody in the know.

[Jefferson Starfish]

Union have turned down 3 above inflation pay offers.

Which would be?

Well the 1st offer 650 million over 3 years 2nd one was 840 million over 3 years not sure what 3rd one was but did hear union want 1.2 billion over 3years.

So at £50 million for each 1%, that's 13% and 17% and the cwu want 24% over 3 years.

Only letting you know what i am being told from somebody in the know.

I don't think even Tweedledee and Tweedledum are stupid enough to think they'll get 24%, unless it's at the expense of loads of terms and conditions.