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Royal mail prepping standards

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enskied
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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Rage24 wrote:
01 May 2025, 15:16
Are they the same as they have always been or have they changed?

Can still do it with sequenced tray into an empty frame?
Not when they tested me. It was totally unsequened across bothe frames and the day after the office had the planners in.
I'm pt and had a PT coming in later. Despite being ready to go before most I failed according to them . Yet we were the first team back .
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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Should you be expected to go on IPS when when prepping two duties?
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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Rage24 wrote:
01 May 2025, 21:12
Should you be expected to go on IPS when when prepping two duties?
In reality no but in our office we are regularly still sorting letters/flats, parcels and packets by the time those prepping 2 duties are finished.

Some of the rurals have even loaded up their vans with parcels from the 1st wagon.
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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One of the reasons we have so many rouge mangers is because of some of the responses in this thread.

To be coached or conducted you have to breached business standards and this case the prep test.

It only has 1 agreed national standard and that is one minute into an empty frame.

The fact that reps allow people to be bullied on this say it all about those offices and their managers.

I’ve been through this one myself when a failed revision has come in they target you with all sorts of nonsense.

Tell them to produce their agreement.
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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i was prepped last week in the time i came off packet sorting, to walking out the door. it was a tuesday with nothing on, and my partner had put most of it in the frame. i was ready in 20 mins. Not sure if anyone else was tested, as it proved nothing.
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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Pidleypoo wrote:
02 May 2025, 06:23
One of the reasons we have so many rouge mangers is because of some of the responses in this thread.

To be coached or conducted you have to breached business standards and this case the prep test.

It only has 1 agreed national standard and that is one minute into an empty frame.

The fact that reps allow people to be bullied on this say it all about those offices and their managers.

I’ve been through this one myself when a failed revision has come in they target you with all sorts of nonsense.

Tell them to produce their agreement.
Is the agreed national standard available online anywhere?
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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Rage24 wrote:
02 May 2025, 15:16
Pidleypoo wrote:
02 May 2025, 06:23
One of the reasons we have so many rouge mangers is because of some of the responses in this thread.

To be coached or conducted you have to breached business standards and this case the prep test.

It only has 1 agreed national standard and that is one minute into an empty frame.

The fact that reps allow people to be bullied on this say it all about those offices and their managers.

I’ve been through this one myself when a failed revision has come in they target you with all sorts of nonsense.

Tell them to produce their agreement.
Is the agreed national standard available online anywhere?
Could still be on the downloads section of this site.

My advice is to ask your manager to produce it.
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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Pidleypoo wrote:
01 May 2025, 16:39
postslippete wrote:
01 May 2025, 16:29
Rage24 wrote:
01 May 2025, 15:39

Manager threatening me with coaching because I can't prep two duties on first week of new revision.

It used to be a 15 minute prep test. However, it doesn't really prove anything because if it did then they would have made sure that everyone's indoor workload is evenly balanced, and it's not, it's f***ed. Some staff only ever prep one frame and spend 10-15 minutes doing a bit of IPS while others are tasked with trying to prep two. To this day I've never managed to fully prep one frame in 10 minutes.
When was it 15 minutes ? because the only one I’m aware of is the 1 minute test into an empty and single slot frame.
For us it was 2 mins into an empty frame. However it it totally different now as I had one, which I failed dismally.

For me it was coming in PT hours with a later starting Ptmer. I was tested from first letter to completion of all mail on both duties, that's sequenced, IPS, missorts.

My defence was no can ever do the same test as the mail variables are so high. It's an unfair test that I underwent. And it was on first week of revision.
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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Pidleypoo wrote:
02 May 2025, 06:23
One of the reasons we have so many rouge mangers is because of some of the responses in this thread.
Do you think if you pass the 1 minute test you can then sort at less than half that rate with impunity?
Would it be a "rouge" manager who picked you up on this?
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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Could they sack you if you fail the test?
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No.
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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clashcityrocker wrote:
02 May 2025, 18:31
Pidleypoo wrote:
02 May 2025, 06:23
One of the reasons we have so many rouge mangers is because of some of the responses in this thread.
Do you think if you pass the 1 minute test you can then sort at less than half that rate with impunity?
Would it be a "rouge" manager who picked you up on this?
How do you pass the test and then sort at half the rate ? Either you pass and it’s the only one they can use or you don’t.
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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enskied wrote:
02 May 2025, 18:01
Pidleypoo wrote:
01 May 2025, 16:39
postslippete wrote:
01 May 2025, 16:29
Rage24 wrote:
01 May 2025, 15:39

Manager threatening me with coaching because I can't prep two duties on first week of new revision.

It used to be a 15 minute prep test. However, it doesn't really prove anything because if it did then they would have made sure that everyone's indoor workload is evenly balanced, and it's not, it's f***ed. Some staff only ever prep one frame and spend 10-15 minutes doing a bit of IPS while others are tasked with trying to prep two. To this day I've never managed to fully prep one frame in 10 minutes.
When was it 15 minutes ? because the only one I’m aware of is the 1 minute test into an empty and single slot frame.
For us it was 2 mins into an empty frame. However it it totally different now as I had one, which I failed dismally.

For me it was coming in PT hours with a later starting Ptmer. I was tested from first letter to completion of all mail on both duties, that's sequenced, IPS, missorts.

My defence was no can ever do the same test as the mail variables are so high. It's an unfair test that I underwent. And it was on first week of revision.
Again this what what you were told but isn’t what the agreed standard is.

There is simply nothing they could’ve done to you for failing it.
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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Pidleypoo wrote:
03 May 2025, 07:09

How do you pass the test and then sort at half the rate ? Either you pass and it’s the only one they can use or you don’t.
On Monday they say we are going to test you.
In 1 minute you sort 35 letters - passing the test. (I think the pass was 25? Or was that IPS?)
On Tuesday you can't be arsed and only sort an average of 15 letters/minute.

Would you regard it as bullying if a manager pulled you up on Tuesday?
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards

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clashcityrocker wrote:
03 May 2025, 14:48
Pidleypoo wrote:
03 May 2025, 07:09

How do you pass the test and then sort at half the rate ? Either you pass and it’s the only one they can use or you don’t.
On Monday they say we are going to test you.
In 1 minute you sort 35 letters - passing the test. (I think the pass was 25? Or was that IPS?)
On Tuesday you can't be arsed and only sort an average of 15 letters/minute.

Would you regard it as bullying if a manager pulled you up on Tuesday?
If I was being targeted each day for a prep test and no one else was then yes I would.

I know this because it is what happened to me.

I was also told the some of the same stuff people in this thread about 15 minutes tests amongst other things so I took it upon myself as the rep was useless to find out what the agreed standards and test was for my unit ( prep rates can vary in a unit and I think it was called the bsi at the time and ours was 32 ) and successfully put a bullying and harassment case against the manager doing it.

I was always way above the rate as the vast majority are and it’s only ever used as a bullying tactic by piss poor managers who are awful at their job.

The test is still only 1 minute into an empty rm2000.

Btw , the prep test is only in regards to prepping mail into a frame , there are none for ips or packet sorting.