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Royal mail prepping standards
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Rage24
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Royal mail prepping standards
Are they the same as they have always been or have they changed?
Can still do it with sequenced tray into an empty frame?
Can still do it with sequenced tray into an empty frame?
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tramssirhc
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
Prep test remains the same. However its not going to prove much. What the real issue?
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hans solo
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
I couldnt give a f**k about prep rates any more
Its not as if it all gets delivered anayway
Its not as if it all gets delivered anayway
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Rage24
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
Manager threatening me with coaching because I can't prep two duties on first week of new revision.tramssirhc wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:19Prep test remains the same. However its not going to prove much. What the real issue?
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postslippete
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
It used to be a 15 minute prep test. However, it doesn't really prove anything because if it did then they would have made sure that everyone's indoor workload is evenly balanced, and it's not, it's f***ed. Some staff only ever prep one frame and spend 10-15 minutes doing a bit of IPS while others are tasked with trying to prep two. To this day I've never managed to fully prep one frame in 10 minutes.
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Pidleypoo
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
When was it 15 minutes ? because the only one I’m aware of is the 1 minute test into an empty and single slot frame.postslippete wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 16:29
It used to be a 15 minute prep test. However, it doesn't really prove anything because if it did then they would have made sure that everyone's indoor workload is evenly balanced, and it's not, it's f***ed. Some staff only ever prep one frame and spend 10-15 minutes doing a bit of IPS while others are tasked with trying to prep two. To this day I've never managed to fully prep one frame in 10 minutes.
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ted_e_bear
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
Go for it, request that they show you how to do it whilst you watch and learnRage24 wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:39Manager threatening me with coaching because I can't prep two duties on first week of new revision.tramssirhc wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:19Prep test remains the same. However its not going to prove much. What the real issue?
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
The "performance test" predates the introduction of sequenced mail.
It is pointless.
As well as having a performance standard the office should also have a resourcing standard. A "should take" time.
There may be simple reasons why this can't be achieved - unfamiliarity, poor presentation of mail etc.
Coaching is the first step on the NCI path.
In the last dispute they wanted to revisit the NCI agreement. I think they may come back to this very soon.
It is pointless.
As well as having a performance standard the office should also have a resourcing standard. A "should take" time.
There may be simple reasons why this can't be achieved - unfamiliarity, poor presentation of mail etc.
Coaching is the first step on the NCI path.
In the last dispute they wanted to revisit the NCI agreement. I think they may come back to this very soon.
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Rage24
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
This is what I thought it was also.Pidleypoo wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 16:39When was it 15 minutes ? because the only one I’m aware of is the 1 minute test into an empty and single slot frame.postslippete wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 16:29
It used to be a 15 minute prep test. However, it doesn't really prove anything because if it did then they would have made sure that everyone's indoor workload is evenly balanced, and it's not, it's f***ed. Some staff only ever prep one frame and spend 10-15 minutes doing a bit of IPS while others are tasked with trying to prep two. To this day I've never managed to fully prep one frame in 10 minutes.
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postslippete
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
Different offices, different methods of calculating prep speeds. But there is no indoor performance standards that I'm aware of and what does it prove anyway? Is the layout of the frame a bit of a mess? Are other's being singled out as well or are they coming in an hour early unpaid to prep two frames? When managers do something like this it can really open a can of worms.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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tramssirhc
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
well the prep test isn't designed for double prepping so it won't prove anything, there is a time value for indoor tasks which should be available for you to see. all you can do is your best. if it can't be done it can't be done. is it delaying you getting out?Rage24 wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:39Manager threatening me with coaching because I can't prep two duties on first week of new revision.tramssirhc wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:19Prep test remains the same. However its not going to prove much. What the real issue?
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scoobydo79
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
That is ridiculous.Rage24 wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:39Manager threatening me with coaching because I can't prep two duties on first week of new revision.tramssirhc wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 15:19Prep test remains the same. However its not going to prove much. What the real issue?
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Pidleypoo
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
There’s only one agreed prep test they can use.postslippete wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 17:16Different offices, different methods of calculating prep speeds. But there is no indoor performance standards that I'm aware of and what does it prove anyway? Is the layout of the frame a bit of a mess? Are other's being singled out as well or are they coming in an hour early unpaid to prep two frames? When managers do something like this it can really open a can of worms.
Anything else , I would argue is targeted harassment.
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world class male
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
we always got told it was 10mins for a full sequenced tub of mail, i know some who can do it in 7 or 8 mins and others can take 20mins!
usually those slower are left alone whilst those efficiant get dragged off to general IPS work
it pays to be slower
usually those slower are left alone whilst those efficiant get dragged off to general IPS work
it pays to be slower
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worktotime
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Re: Royal mail prepping standards
1 min prep test in an empty frame , i think it was 20 or so , let the clown crack on and ask him / her to show you how it should be done , because we all struggle to prep 2 deliverys , these are the clowns that need to go as moral will not change otherwise .Rage24 wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 16:56This is what I thought it was also.Pidleypoo wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 16:39When was it 15 minutes ? because the only one I’m aware of is the 1 minute test into an empty and single slot frame.postslippete wrote: ↑01 May 2025, 16:29
It used to be a 15 minute prep test. However, it doesn't really prove anything because if it did then they would have made sure that everyone's indoor workload is evenly balanced, and it's not, it's f***ed. Some staff only ever prep one frame and spend 10-15 minutes doing a bit of IPS while others are tasked with trying to prep two. To this day I've never managed to fully prep one frame in 10 minutes.