Pay rise %

[Poppyellie69]

Correct dk will want the workers on side does not like casual staff and much prefers better ot rates to encourage full time staff to do the work properly,he's getting the business for a song,so I'm sure it will be a lot better than recent years

[Walter sobchak]

Minimum wage beckons, why does any company in the UK have to pay decent wages when there are thousands of cheap workers crossing the Channel every year.

They are either illegal or they arent make your mind up

Not only are they illegal but they are a capitalist’s dream.

[milly]

Minimum wage beckons, why does any company in the UK have to pay decent wages when there are thousands of cheap workers crossing the Channel every year.

They are either illegal or they arent make your mind up

Not only are they illegal but they are a capitalist’s dream.

Indeed, the large corporations (Globalists)have played a blinder promoting diversity, they get their unlimited cheap Labour with the added bonus of having their natural enemies ( the Socialists) virtue signal and defend mass immigration.
The Globalists use the Socialists as useful idiots and it's worked beautifully for them.

[buchanpeter]

The problem with a lump sum deal is that it often dilutes long term pay. I think BT had an offer accepted recently of 1% + £1,000. It just means that if the staff were on say £15 an hour, then an extra 1% gives them £15.15. If they had instead of the lump sum a 4.5% pay rise then it would put them on £15.67 and this would be an equivalent earnings over the year.

The difference this makes is next year a 3% pay rise would put them on £15.67 for the accepted deal, but the equivalent earnings I demonstrated it would be £16.03.

This ultimately gets compounded year after year. There may be instances whereby this isn't true, but it's worth being wary about.

U are correct about lump sums watering down pay. But in BT's case it's not entirely true. Their deal was 1% plus an extra £1000 added to Ur gross pay permanently.
The idea was that lowest paid workers get a bigger payrise. Something like 4%+ where as the higher paid getting a smaller 2%+.
Just a trick from BT to suppress wages on the higher paid.

[Acca Dacca]

Minimum wage beckons, why does any company in the UK have to pay decent wages when there are thousands of cheap workers crossing the Channel every year.

They are either illegal or they arent make your mind up

Not only are they illegal but they are a capitalist’s dream.

If they are working for a company like Royal Mail they aren’t “illegal”

Do they work for Royal Mail for £3 an hour yeah?

The irony of millys post bemoaning the benefit claimants not working whilst at the same time demonising foreigners coming here to work isn’t lost on me

[milly]

Minimum wage beckons, why does any company in the UK have to pay decent wages when there are thousands of cheap workers crossing the Channel every year.

They are either illegal or they arent make your mind up

Not only are they illegal but they are a capitalist’s dream.

If they are working for a company like Royal Mail they aren’t “illegal”

Do they work for Royal Mail for £3 an hour yeah?

The irony of millys post bemoaning the benefit claimants not working whilst at the same time demonising foreigners coming here to work isn’t lost on me

Mass immigration legal or otherwise keeps wages suppressed, end of.
That's why large corporations love it.
They don't care where their units of Labour come from so long as they're cheap.
Obviously you would rather be poor so you can continue to virtue signal.

[broughts]

The new owners hopefully will turn this company surely a company that turns over 12 billion but makes nothing won’t stomach for very long and put up with failure

[Shirtbuttons]

As we have always been told we are underworked and overpaid . We are all lazy.

[postslippete]

We have had pay rises every time the business has made changes and I've seen a lot of staff leave the company mainly because of changes in working conditions. Personally, I think the shorter working week is the way to go because you work less hours and your hourly rate increases. And if there's more scope to do overtime at an enhanced rate then it's obviously win-win for staff on the shop floor.

[A2B]

We have had pay rises every time the business has made changes and I've seen a lot of staff leave the company mainly because of changes in working conditions. Personally, I think the shorter working week is the way to go because you work less hours and your hourly rate increases. And if there's more scope to do overtime at an enhanced rate then it's obviously win-win for staff on the shop floor.

Sorry but reducing the working week to make our hourly rate look more impressive is not the way we should be heading. More money in the wage packet is the way it needs to be, nobody should be hoping to top up their wages with overtime which could and has disappear very quickly

[qwerty2]

We have had pay rises every time the business has made changes and I've seen a lot of staff leave the company mainly because of changes in working conditions. Personally, I think the shorter working week is the way to go because you work less hours and your hourly rate increases. And if there's more scope to do overtime at an enhanced rate then it's obviously win-win for staff on the shop floor.

Sorry but reducing the working week to make our hourly rate look more impressive is not the way we should be heading. More money in the wage packet is the way it needs to be, nobody should be hoping to top up their wages with overtime which could and has disappear very quickly

That’s the point of working overtime - to top up your wages.
That’s why people PT and new contracts are leaving because aren’t getting what they used to get

[A2B]

We have had pay rises every time the business has made changes and I've seen a lot of staff leave the company mainly because of changes in working conditions. Personally, I think the shorter working week is the way to go because you work less hours and your hourly rate increases. And if there's more scope to do overtime at an enhanced rate then it's obviously win-win for staff on the shop floor.

Sorry but reducing the working week to make our hourly rate look more impressive is not the way we should be heading. More money in the wage packet is the way it needs to be, nobody should be hoping to top up their wages with overtime which could and has disappear very quickly

That’s the point of working overtime - to top up your wages.
That’s why people PT and new contracts are leaving because aren’t getting what they used to get

We shouldn't need to top up our wages with overtime, pay a decent rate of pay. At the moment in our office there has been no pro overtime since Christmas and I think that goes for many areas.

What do we do with a reduction in the working week and a small pay rise? go and get a second job

[postslippete]

We shouldn't need to top up our wages with overtime, pay a decent rate of pay. At the moment in our office there has been no pro overtime since Christmas and I think that goes for many areas.

What do we do with a reduction in the working week and a small pay rise? go and get a second job

What do you mean by no pro overtime? There are at least half a dozen staff in our section that get early IPS and some of them even get a bit of ghost overtime on top. Admittedly, our manager seems reluctant to pay delivery excess at times but there is no overtime ban per se.

I guess all offices are different but RM as a business has always relied on overtime. Somehow I don't think that this will change.

[Binsey]

Well I suspect it will.

Owner driver incoming.

[Hyrrokkin]

Minimum wage beckons, why does any company in the UK have to pay decent wages when there are thousands of cheap workers crossing the Channel every year.

They are either illegal or they arent make your mind up

They won't be going back anytime soon, no doubt at some point they'll be eligible to join the Labour market.
I believe some them already work illegally anyway.
I'm merely pointing out that the Labour market is the same as any other market.
It's unrealistic to expect decent wages when there's an oversupply of Labour.
Also employers can't compete with the Government, who can pay people more to sit at home doing nothing.

Ahh I see there are too many workers and also too many people not working

Wait a minute...

The old ''coming over here to take our jobs' whilst also ''coming over here to not work a day in their life and claim our tax money as benefits''

Seems you want people to work....just as long as they are the right kind of person or dare I say it, colour.

It's quite clear that there are massive problems with the out of control welfare budget and mass immigration suppressing wages.
Even the Labour Party recognise this.
I notice you never countered any of my arguments, instead you try and accuse me of racism.