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Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
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ted_e_bear
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Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
TONIGHT ON CWU LIVE AT 5PM - USO UPDATES AND CAPITA CONCERNS
Dear Members,
We know that many of our Royal Mail delivery members have been asking about the USO trials - what’s the latest, what's changing, and what it means for the future of delivery. That’s why we’ve invited Postal Outdoor Assistant Secretary, Tony Bouch back on the show this week to give a full update. He’ll be breaking down the key learnings from the pilot sites so far, what's next, and what it all means for members on the ground.
Join us at 5pm to hear directly from Tony, and as always, please get involved in the YouTube comments.
We’ll also be joined by CWU National Officer Tracey Fussey, who’ll talk about the union’s serious concerns around Capita’s handling of proposed redundancies on the VMO2 contract.
Capita is pushing to cut 127 roles based on flawed performance data, without proper consultation - and is placing undue pressure on vulnerable members to leave. The CWU has written to Capita demanding an immediate halt to these actions, and we’re fighting for fair treatment and a full consultation.
If you’re a member affected or just want to know what we’re doing to protect jobs and rights - please tune in at 5pm.
View here:
The CWU
Dear Members,
We know that many of our Royal Mail delivery members have been asking about the USO trials - what’s the latest, what's changing, and what it means for the future of delivery. That’s why we’ve invited Postal Outdoor Assistant Secretary, Tony Bouch back on the show this week to give a full update. He’ll be breaking down the key learnings from the pilot sites so far, what's next, and what it all means for members on the ground.
Join us at 5pm to hear directly from Tony, and as always, please get involved in the YouTube comments.
We’ll also be joined by CWU National Officer Tracey Fussey, who’ll talk about the union’s serious concerns around Capita’s handling of proposed redundancies on the VMO2 contract.
Capita is pushing to cut 127 roles based on flawed performance data, without proper consultation - and is placing undue pressure on vulnerable members to leave. The CWU has written to Capita demanding an immediate halt to these actions, and we’re fighting for fair treatment and a full consultation.
If you’re a member affected or just want to know what we’re doing to protect jobs and rights - please tune in at 5pm.
View here:
The CWU
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tramssirhc
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
Another load of hot air. Tony Boulch is so out of touch he thinks that a worker in delivery has been working the same way for the last 20 years. That's what happens when you've not had a proper job fof 20 years. Stop bank rolling these jokers. Hit them where it hurts, in the pocket.
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dazer0070
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hans solo
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
12,000 steps f***ing clowns
They obviously have not tried a complete walk in the last few years
And these people in discussions re our futures
They do not have a clue
Put them out on a duty
Let them try it and see how it feels
Fatigued
They obviously have not tried a complete walk in the last few years
And these people in discussions re our futures
They do not have a clue
Put them out on a duty
Let them try it and see how it feels
Fatigued
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hans solo
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
Cumbernauld staff volunteering to fatigue study because the sick rate is going up
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Pidleypoo
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
I’ve not listened to today’s podcast but can someone please tell me that bouch didn’t say we only walk 12k steps a day ?
If he did and meant it he should resign immediately.
If he did and meant it he should resign immediately.
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stars2025
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
maybe he meant 12,000 steps a loop, then again could be walks in certain parts of london, heard some of them only doing 4 and half hour deliveries, try more like 6 and half delivery span some offices further north u go
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Mr Rush
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
'Don't miss it'. Oh, s**t, I missed it again probably because I had just f***ing sat down by 5PM.

Has the CWU thought about having them carry PDAs all day?ted_e_bear wrote: ↑24 Apr 2025, 16:44Capita is pushing to cut 127 roles based on flawed performance data
The machine stops.
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Playmail
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
Should put a step counter app on the PDA then these plonkers will see how many steps we accurately do
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toonshola
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
He thinks we only do 12000 steps a day. It wasn’t a mistake either he actually said it twice. I do between 23-26 thousand steps a day currently on my delivery. The top union freaks sitting in their offices think we are doing half the work we actually do. Their brains are stuck in 1992 when the deliverys were half the size and posties did a second delivery. And this bloke is going to be leading a “fatigue study”. We are absolutely screwed guys.
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Valentina@1
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
He sounds like a manager,so pro company,this union have completely sold out I’m afraid
Sad times
Sad times
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Mr Rush
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
I found an old pedometer back when P&L rolled out and found we were hitting 20,000 steps then. At least the letters dropped off over time so I wasn't simultaneously hauling all that weight. Ah, the future - the worst of both worlds!
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mr hil.
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
He was only using hypothetical figures to illustrate the fact that if you currently walk five days a week you may only walk three days a week in the new regime. So if you currently walk 25,000 steps which makes 125,000 steps in a week going forward this could be reduced to only 75,000 steps over three days with one or two days in a shared van or on a 4 day week.toonshola wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025, 09:50He thinks we only do 12000 steps a day. It wasn’t a mistake either he actually said it twice. I do between 23-26 thousand steps a day currently on my delivery. The top union freaks sitting in their offices think we are doing half the work we actually do. Their brains are stuck in 1992 when the deliverys were half the size and posties did a second delivery. And this bloke is going to be leading a “fatigue study”. We are absolutely screwed guys.
Too much negativity on here regarding these changes, it reminds of the time when we went to the single delivery from 1st and 2nd deliveries. The change needs to come to protect our job, the CWU are doing their best to influence the changes and mitigate the impact on both our duty content and the overall number of jobs remaining. When it comes to your office get involved, we know what works best and can have a positive impact. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to accept the inevitable never results in the best outcome for anyone. By all means challenge wrong thinking but do it from a positive place not an obdurate one.
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tramssirhc
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
Everyone knows just how emotive the CWU's profit driven behaviour has become. Are you saying Tony, with all the media training, is tone-deaf? This isn't the time for pie in the sky figures. "Everything has to be right" -mr hil. wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025, 23:56toonshola wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025, 09:50He thinks we only do 12000 steps a day. It wasn’t a mistake either he actually said it twice. I do between 23-26 thousand steps a day currently on my delivery. The top union freaks sitting in their offices think we are doing half the work we actually do. Their brains are stuck in 1992 when the deliverys were half the size and posties did a second delivery. And this bloke is going to be leading a “fatigue study”. We are absolutely screwed guys.
Dismissing genuine criticism as negativity is classic CWU behaviour. Is it any wonder that we criticise when your example of the past - changing to a single delivery - is a brilliant example of how the CWU has failed. We were sold single delivery on the basis of job and finish. That agreement was made to stop us fighting the end of second deliveries. Within years of that sellout we were told we had to work to our time!
The CWU is not protecting jobs. It's colluding in a tripartite attack on decent hard working people. The CWU is not a passive victim as you portray. The CWU is the problem.
Workers are reporting that the changes are already planned and ready to go. There has been no worker involvement, let alone CWU involvement. The sand is so deep workers are buried in it, suffocating.
And lets be clear the obuduracy comes from a Union so deep in partnership, so distant from it's members, with an executive so removed from reality that the certification officer should revoke its status as an independent trade union.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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richietns
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Re: Don’t Miss CWU Live at 5pm – USO Update and Capita Concerns
No ones burying their head for the past 15 or so years all we hear is "we have to change" even when RM MAKE PROFIT it goes to share holders and not reinvested just look how Simon Thompson and many ceo's have left with millions for literally failing is DK gonna be another,just being "positive"about the trials hasn't got the glow the staff once had before privitisation.mr hil. wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025, 23:56He was only using hypothetical figures to illustrate the fact that if you currently walk five days a week you may only walk three days a week in the new regime. So if you currently walk 25,000 steps which makes 125,000 steps in a week going forward this could be reduced to only 75,000 steps over three days with one or two days in a shared van or on a 4 day week.toonshola wrote: ↑25 Apr 2025, 09:50He thinks we only do 12000 steps a day. It wasn’t a mistake either he actually said it twice. I do between 23-26 thousand steps a day currently on my delivery. The top union freaks sitting in their offices think we are doing half the work we actually do. Their brains are stuck in 1992 when the deliverys were half the size and posties did a second delivery. And this bloke is going to be leading a “fatigue study”. We are absolutely screwed guys.
Too much negativity on here regarding these changes, it reminds of the time when we went to the single delivery from 1st and 2nd deliveries. The change needs to come to protect our job, the CWU are doing their best to influence the changes and mitigate the impact on both our duty content and the overall number of jobs remaining. When it comes to your office get involved, we know what works best and can have a positive impact. Burying your head in the sand and refusing to accept the inevitable never results in the best outcome for anyone. By all means challenge wrong thinking but do it from a positive place not an obdurate one.