Gold will have the last wordHyrrokkin wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025, 18:37Hmmm no pain at all but thanks anywaymilly wrote: ↑13 Apr 2025, 17:14Thanks for the accolade, but it's really not rocket science, more of a mathematical problem.
There's too much debt in the financial system.
It must pain you that the money loved by crackpots, namely Gold, is holding its own during this chaos.
As for chaos - something else will come along to unsettle the markets - again and again and etc etc.
As always leave the last word to you Milly
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No it won't.
You can’t eat it,you can’t drink it and it won’t keep you warm and dry.
You can’t eat it,you can’t drink it and it won’t keep you warm and dry.
Bye
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What's the smallest gold coin you've got? When you nip to your local Morrisons (if it's not been torched/looted) with a gold sovereign and they'll only give you a one litre bottle of water and don't have any change for your gold sovereign what are you going to do?
Or when you're faced with a Mad Max character with a shotgun who wants all your gold sovereigns for that same litre of water what are your options?
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What makes you think that everything is going to turn into a Mad Max scenario, you really have a vivid imagination.yellowbelly wrote: ↑18 Apr 2025, 10:35What's the smallest gold coin you've got? When you nip to your local Morrisons (if it's not been torched/looted) with a gold sovereign and they'll only give you a one litre bottle of water and don't have any change for your gold sovereign what are you going to do?
Or when you're faced with a Mad Max character with a shotgun who wants all your gold sovereigns for that same litre of water what are your options?
Let's keep things in perspective shall we, now was it advantageous to own precious metals during financial turmoil in places like Argentina, Venezuela, Colombia or Zimbabwe etc?
Honestly, some of you Normies are
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That's a better explanation milly! Unless you've got a hoard of gold sovereigns under your mattress or in a safe deposit box then, what you're actually saying is that it's an idea to be the nominee holder of gold through some sort of platform then exchange it for bits and bytes which you'll hopefully be able to turn into fiat currency.milly wrote: ↑18 Apr 2025, 10:47What makes you think that everything is going to turn into a Mad Max scenario, you really have a vivid imagination.yellowbelly wrote: ↑18 Apr 2025, 10:35What's the smallest gold coin you've got? When you nip to your local Morrisons (if it's not been torched/looted) with a gold sovereign and they'll only give you a one litre bottle of water and don't have any change for your gold sovereign what are you going to do?
Or when you're faced with a Mad Max character with a shotgun who wants all your gold sovereigns for that same litre of water what are your options?
Let's keep things in perspective shall we, now was it advantageous to own precious metals during financial turmoil in places like Argentina, Venezuela, Colombia or Zimbabwe etc?
Honestly, some of you Normies are.
Then you'll be able to buy your litre of water from Mad Max/Morrisons - this of course relies on your on line platform being 'on line' still, and your own bank and the ATM where you get your FIAT money from still working.
Disclaimer: I 'own' gold through an online platform, I'm under no impressions that I 'own' the gold, that it would be guaranteed that I could swap it for FIAT currency even in a mild financial or geopolitical crisis, and like anything else (as BELIAL implies) it only has a value if someone else wants it when you want to sell.
'Normies'
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In your Mad Max fantasy only physical assets would be of any use.yellowbelly wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 10:52That's a better explanation milly! Unless you've got a hoard of gold sovereigns under your mattress or in a safe deposit box then, what you're actually saying is that it's an idea to be the nominee holder of gold through some sort of platform then exchange it for bits and bytes which you'll hopefully be able to turn into fiat currency.milly wrote: ↑18 Apr 2025, 10:47What makes you think that everything is going to turn into a Mad Max scenario, you really have a vivid imagination.yellowbelly wrote: ↑18 Apr 2025, 10:35What's the smallest gold coin you've got? When you nip to your local Morrisons (if it's not been torched/looted) with a gold sovereign and they'll only give you a one litre bottle of water and don't have any change for your gold sovereign what are you going to do?
Or when you're faced with a Mad Max character with a shotgun who wants all your gold sovereigns for that same litre of water what are your options?
Let's keep things in perspective shall we, now was it advantageous to own precious metals during financial turmoil in places like Argentina, Venezuela, Colombia or Zimbabwe etc?
Honestly, some of you Normies are.
Then you'll be able to buy your litre of water from Mad Max/Morrisons - this of course relies on your on line platform being 'on line' still, and your own bank and the ATM where you get your FIAT money from still working.
Disclaimer: I 'own' gold through an online platform, I'm under no impressions that I 'own' the gold, that it would be guaranteed that I could swap it for FIAT currency even in a mild financial or geopolitical crisis, and like anything else (as BELIAL implies) it only has a value if someone else wants it when you want to sell.
'Normies'![]()
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As for Belial's strange comment about not being able to eat Gold or that it can't keep you warm or dry, I wasn't aware that fiat currency had those properties either
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In 1933, the US government under President Franklin Roosevelt nationalised the country’s gold, seizing all gold bullion and coins ( This forced citizens to sell at below market rates and made private gold ownership illegal.
Why did FDR do this?
To protect the dollar's position as a currency of last resort.
Would Trump do this?
Well the dollar is sliding.....
Why did FDR do this?
To protect the dollar's position as a currency of last resort.
Would Trump do this?
Well the dollar is sliding.....
Only dead fish follow the current
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Gold was monetized then, that's no longer the case.Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 11:38In 1933, the US government under President Franklin Roosevelt nationalised the country’s gold, seizing all gold bullion and coins ( This forced citizens to sell at below market rates and made private gold ownership illegal.
Why did FDR do this?
To protect the dollar's position as a currency of last resort.
Would Trump do this?
Well the dollar is sliding.....
The Government can do whatever ever they want, they could confiscate Gold or even your Pension and Savings if they thought it was in the National Interest.
It would be much easier for the Government to steal your Pension than going after Gold owners.
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Define easier?
Stealing everyone's pension would probably end up with burning government buildings.
Going after gold "owners" would probably provoke a strongly worded letter to the guardian.
At the end of the day it's a pointless nonsense argument, gold is an investment choice like any other, less risky than stocks and shares, better return than bonds but still subject to the same speculation as any other investment, it's not a secret or a "hack" or some way to subvert the establishment. It's been around for....billions of years and people have been hoarding it because like me on a Sunday it's pretty to look at and and practically inert.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑19 Apr 2025, 12:18Define easier?
Stealing everyone's pension would probably end up with burning government buildings.
Going after gold "owners" would probably provoke a strongly worded letter to the guardian.
At the end of the day it's a pointless nonsense argument, gold is an investment choice like any other, less risky than stocks and shares, better return than bonds but still subject to the same speculation as any other investment, it's not a secret or a "hack" or some way to subvert the establishment. It's been around for....billions of years and people have been hoarding it because like me on a Sunday it's pretty to look at and and practically inert.
They could insist that all Pensions must have, say 25% of your Pension invested in UK Gilts.
That's an easy way to steal some of your Pension, give the Government 25% of your Pension which they will pay you back in a devalued currency.
In my opinion Gold is on the way to being money once again.