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Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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Barnacle wrote:
11 Apr 2025, 20:29
There are 14 million C5 parcels in the system annually, which are going to be moved to ParcelForce.
Just to back up your post barnacle, this is from the MC thread:
Transfer in financial year 25/26 up to 14m large items (Format 4+) from the RM
network to PFWW, this will be via direct from customer or MC/HUB.
What size are these Format 4+ sized items? Does it include items such as.....? Microwaves...? Tyres...?
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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I'm wondering how we should weigh the bags in the office as I've never seen any scales?

And also what weight should be on a lwt for health and safety precautions?
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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funkflex55 wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 15:03
I'm wondering how we should weigh the bags in the office as I've never seen any scales?

And also what weight should be on a lwt for health and safety precautions?
I’d like to know the H&S max weight for an LWT too.
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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Barnacle wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 15:10


I’d like to know the H&S max weight for an LWT too.
2 x 16kg bags
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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Originally in park and loop the weights of the bags were meant to go down from 16kg per side to 8kg per side on a sliding scale with your first bags being the heaviest and last ones being the lightest.

Never saw that happen either.

Anyway they changed the ssow on that to be 16kg max on either side of the lwt on any loops.

Also to answer another question about scales , despite asking for them for ages from office rep to area rep and line manager to area manager , not seen one of them either.
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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Thanks. What's the maximum weight for carrying on the shoulder and how do we weigh the bags?
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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Woody Guthrie wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 15:42
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Thank you!
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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funkflex55 wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 16:23
Thanks. What's the maximum weight for carrying on the shoulder and how do we weigh the bags?
That’s 16kg but that doesn’t mean you should be walking around with that on your shoulder for every bag.
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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funkflex55 wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 15:03
I'm wondering how we should weigh the bags in the office as I've never seen any scales?

And also what weight should be on a lwt for health and safety precautions?
The scales in our place don’t look like scales. They have a flat bed with a ramp and it is about 2 metre sq. There’s a digital display on the wall which doesn’t look like it’s part of it.

They are currently not working which is convenient.

So have a look by your entrance or exit door for something they are not quite burying.
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Bag weights in areas where a trolley is not suitable is 8kg I believe, reduced to 5kg for tenement flats.
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The max total weight of a HTC is 122kg so if they are going to make the trolley jobs take out more mail bundles, the scales need to be visible and working.
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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clashcityrocker wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 17:11
Bag weights in areas where a trolley is not suitable is 8kg I believe, reduced to 5kg for tenement flats.
Ah so, there’s a variation dependent on where you are delivering to? That’s useful to know.
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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Scales have just been REMOVED from my office
Not heard an explanation for it, can only assume it was to make room for the bodge of a 2.1 revision, I guess the frames squeezed in around the edge left no room near a plug socket.

To quote the COM who was desperate to have this new way of trialled in this office, but conveniently jumped ship before implementation, "your health, safety, and well being is not a concern for me or Royal Mail"
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Re: Which part of the new delivery model is supposed to reduce fatigue?

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I find it hard to believe that with the make up of the mail today anyone could come close to 16kg unless they had a stupid amount of heavy parcels in their bag.

In the days of sky mags and heavy mail a rough guesstimate of 16kg was around 6 bundles of mail.

On my roughly 30 min loops I mostly have one bundle, two if it's double mail so usually there isn't any mail at all in the bag, I wouldn't put heavy parcels in there, that's what the van is for. I've genuinely not seen anyone with anything that even looks overweight for years and it was common back in the day.

Just an opinion.
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