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Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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Cexpress wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 19:31
Moon71 just to rectify a couple of your random comments. Colleagues in my old delivery office would laugh at the idea of me being militant. I was a CWU member for 31 years and they let me down when I needed them most. I always went on strike but I’ve never been on a picket line in my life. I didn’t do what I was accused of and the 2 managers know this. Until this happened to me I had no issues whatsoever with the DOM. In fact he went out of his way to assist me in obtaining the holidays I required not long before I was dismissed. I first met him when he was gardening for a living aged 19. In fact I’ve often wondered if he became a postman after seeing how much I enjoyed my job. Ironic eh? I spoke to the PWRFC as I wanted a platform to tell my story. I think you will find it’s a story many dismissed posties can relate to. The PWRFC certainly had nothing to do with my case and I hadn’t even heard of them at that time. Let’s hope you don’t find yourself in the same position.
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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Cexpress wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 19:31
Moon71 just to rectify a couple of your random comments. Colleagues in my old delivery office would laugh at the idea of me being militant. I was a CWU member for 31 years and they let me down when I needed them most. I always went on strike but I’ve never been on a picket line in my life. I didn’t do what I was accused of and the 2 managers know this. Until this happened to me I had no issues whatsoever with the DOM. In fact he went out of his way to assist me in obtaining the holidays I required not long before I was dismissed. I first met him when he was gardening for a living aged 19. In fact I’ve often wondered if he became a postman after seeing how much I enjoyed my job. Ironic eh? I spoke to the PWRFC as I wanted a platform to tell my story. I think you will find it’s a story many dismissed posties can relate to. The PWRFC certainly had nothing to do with my case and I hadn’t even heard of them at that time. Let’s hope you don’t find yourself in the same position.
Thanks Des. The video interview with Des about his victimisation can be watched via this link which has messages of solidarity from postal workers around the country https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/1 ... c-n06.html
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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Still not a bit of evidence that could of been used in a conduct code, proven holes in story, we covered this and it is off thread.

Why not start another thread.
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 19:56
Still not a bit of evidence that could of been used in a conduct code, proven holes in story, we covered this and it is off thread.

Why not start another thread.
The only thing you've covered is yourself in shame. Royal Mail and the CWU has not dared to challenge the account of Des's unfair dismissal.
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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Why would they, they've done nothing wrong.

Stop trying to use someone as a martyr to your cause. Have you supplied the evidence to the forum that was used in the conduct code. Absolutely not, hence anyone reading would just sense distrust.

Actually shame on you for going the lowest in hope to give false hope to your cause. You'll do anything to promote the PWRFC. And even the PWRFC could take the RM to court if you thought there was a case. But they won't.

Go on take Des, pay for a court and win and I'll eat my words.

Absolute shame.
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:35
Sean06 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:27
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:20
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 15:21
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 14:22
The hate for the CWU is oozing in some people.

Sad they have an agenda to sell.
It's not hate for the 'CWU'. It's a challenge to the leadership who have no concept of collectivism and rank and file activism. If they did postal workers wouldn't calling for them to be booted out.
Who's calling for them to be booted out?

My office, our sister office and something like 20 satellite offices appear to be happy with the CWU.

Hence my surprise for your hate campaign.
Exactly obviously all the branches who recently voted the leadership back in are not calling for them to be (booted) out.
That being the branches who never meet, never hold mass meetings and have no idea what the rank and file want. Dave Ward's reelection was unopposed.
Who is this rank an file you keep talking about nobody in mc i work in has ever heard of pwrfc.
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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Barnacle wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:56
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:42
Barnacle wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:51
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:35
Sean06 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:27
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:20
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 15:21
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 14:22
The hate for the CWU is oozing in some people.

Sad they have an agenda to sell.
It's not hate for the 'CWU'. It's a challenge to the leadership who have no concept of collectivism and rank and file activism. If they did postal workers wouldn't calling for them to be booted out.
Who's calling for them to be booted out?

My office, our sister office and something like 20 satellite offices appear to be happy with the CWU.

Hence my surprise for your hate campaign.
Exactly obviously all the branches who recently voted the leadership back in are not calling for them to be (booted) out.
That being the branches who never meet, never hold mass meetings and have no idea what the rank and file want. Dave Ward's reelection was unopposed.
It was unopposed, because no one stood against him.
It was in opposed because no could stand against him.
Incorrect. Someone else in a senior position in the union could have stood against him if they had the backing of 5 or 6 branches. Then it would have been a competition. But either no one else stood, or no one else gained enough backing.
Any member could have stood for the position of general secretary. The reality is it's a closed shop and there is zero chance that a rank and file member could get on the ballot paper.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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Sean06 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 20:19
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:35
Sean06 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:27
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:20
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 15:21
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 14:22
The hate for the CWU is oozing in some people.

Sad they have an agenda to sell.
It's not hate for the 'CWU'. It's a challenge to the leadership who have no concept of collectivism and rank and file activism. If they did postal workers wouldn't calling for them to be booted out.
Who's calling for them to be booted out?

My office, our sister office and something like 20 satellite offices appear to be happy with the CWU.

Hence my surprise for your hate campaign.
Exactly obviously all the branches who recently voted the leadership back in are not calling for them to be (booted) out.
That being the branches who never meet, never hold mass meetings and have no idea what the rank and file want. Dave Ward's reelection was unopposed.
Who is this rank an file you keep talking about nobody in mc i work in has ever heard of pwrfc.
We are the rank and file, all of us.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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Nope, just you and a few loud mouths on this forum. Nearly every rm site, up an down the country haven't heard of you.

And you'll never be recognised by the employer.

So you are nobody.
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 20:43
Barnacle wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:56
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 18:42
Barnacle wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:51
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:35
Sean06 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:27
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:20
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 15:21
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 14:22
The hate for the CWU is oozing in some people.

Sad they have an agenda to sell.
It's not hate for the 'CWU'. It's a challenge to the leadership who have no concept of collectivism and rank and file activism. If they did postal workers wouldn't calling for them to be booted out.
Who's calling for them to be booted out?

My office, our sister office and something like 20 satellite offices appear to be happy with the CWU.

Hence my surprise for your hate campaign.
Exactly obviously all the branches who recently voted the leadership back in are not calling for them to be (booted) out.
That being the branches who never meet, never hold mass meetings and have no idea what the rank and file want. Dave Ward's reelection was unopposed.
It was unopposed, because no one stood against him.
It was in opposed because no could stand against him.
Incorrect. Someone else in a senior position in the union could have stood against him if they had the backing of 5 or 6 branches. Then it would have been a competition. But either no one else stood, or no one else gained enough backing.
Any member could have stood for the position of general secretary. The reality is it's a closed shop and there is zero chance that a rank and file member could get on the ballot paper.
Any member could stand, but to do the job of GS they would need to have evidence of experience and be known to be capable, otherwise branches would not support their bid. So it is more likely that a challenge will come from a deputy.
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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stage3 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 20:05
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 19:56
Still not a bit of evidence that could of been used in a conduct code, proven holes in story, we covered this and it is off thread.

Why not start another thread.
The only thing you've covered is yourself in shame. Royal Mail and the CWU has not dared to challenge the account of Des's unfair dismissal.
And stage3 you really make yourself look a plonker. Let's be honest, stick to your cut and paste threads and walk away. When you reply to posts you make yourself look a complete joke.

Why not concentrate on a crowd fund me thing, get Des a court case for unfair dismissal and prove me wrong.

Do something positive. Because everything else you do just makes you look like a moron. Makes the Pwrfc wsws look stupid.

You really could do so much better.
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 20:44
Sean06 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 20:19
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:35
Sean06 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:27
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 16:20
tramssirhc wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 15:21
moon71 wrote:
20 Mar 2025, 14:22
The hate for the CWU is oozing in some people.

Sad they have an agenda to sell.
It's not hate for the 'CWU'. It's a challenge to the leadership who have no concept of collectivism and rank and file activism. If they did postal workers wouldn't calling for them to be booted out.
Who's calling for them to be booted out?

My office, our sister office and something like 20 satellite offices appear to be happy with the CWU.

Hence my surprise for your hate campaign.
Exactly obviously all the branches who recently voted the leadership back in are not calling for them to be (booted) out.
That being the branches who never meet, never hold mass meetings and have no idea what the rank and file want. Dave Ward's reelection was unopposed.
Who is this rank an file you keep talking about nobody in mc i work in has ever heard of pwrfc.
We are the rank and file, all of us.
How many rank an file members compared to cwu...real answer no bulls--t.
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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Thanks for the reports stage 3 , good to see workers getting organised. Why that worries some of the shouty posters so much is a mystery.

Still keep rattling all the right cages. Proves the message is being spread.

Keep up the good work
Bye
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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BELIAL wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 11:07
Thanks for the reports stage 3 , good to see workers getting organised. Why that worries some of the shouty posters so much is a mystery.

Still keep rattling all the right cages. Proves the message is being spread.

Keep up the good work
:thumbup
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Re: Cumbernauld delivery office: How the CWU is enforcing Royal Mail’s USO reform pilots

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BELIAL wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 11:07
Thanks for the reports stage 3 , good to see workers getting organised. Why that worries some of the shouty posters so much is a mystery.

Still keep rattling all the right cages. Proves the message is being spread.

Keep up the good work
💯