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Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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tramssirhc wrote:
12 Mar 2025, 06:56

No one's going to do it for you and the CWU certainly won't. When was the last time the CWU stood up and changed things? The clowns in charge of the CWU at every level have all been there for decades. They are responsible for this mess. Organise yourselves, tell your rep it has to be different. Boot out the careerists.
Before we go round in circles and blame the CWU. I agree with you, however, I also asked you a question as you seem to be more knowledgable than me about the WSWS/SEP/PWRFC - when was the last time an organised workers rank and file movement in the UK stood up and changed things?
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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postslippete wrote:
12 Mar 2025, 16:19
tramssirhc wrote:
12 Mar 2025, 06:56

No one's going to do it for you and the CWU certainly won't. When was the last time the CWU stood up and changed things? The clowns in charge of the CWU at every level have all been there for decades. They are responsible for this mess. Organise yourselves, tell your rep it has to be different. Boot out the careerists.
Before we go round in circles and blame the CWU. I agree with you, however, I also asked you a question as you seem to be more knowledgable than me about the WSWS/SEP/PWRFC - when was the last time an organised workers rank and file movement in the UK stood up and changed things?
It happens every day. Take the IWGB. They are constantly taking things into their own hands including organising workers in the postal industry. The IWGB have to organise some of the most precarious workers in GB.
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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moon71 wrote:
11 Mar 2025, 18:44
stage3 wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 19:49
The general sentiment was that the CWU is untrustworthy and part of management, with workers treated as fodder and moved around from their duties, “The union rep does the rotas, that tells you something,” added the postie.


Is that a proven fact, or fictional story telling. It's proven everything you read via the PWRFC should be taken with a pinch of salt.
The CWU admitted tonight that what's been said in the WSWS/SEP reporting is true. Tony Boulch admitted over 6000 routes are missing. Tony Boulch admitted the sorting equipment was never programmed. Sounds like the report was an example of real, on the ground journalism.
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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tramssirhc wrote:
13 Mar 2025, 21:37
moon71 wrote:
11 Mar 2025, 18:44
stage3 wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 19:49
The general sentiment was that the CWU is untrustworthy and part of management, with workers treated as fodder and moved around from their duties, “The union rep does the rotas, that tells you something,” added the postie.


Is that a proven fact, or fictional story telling. It's proven everything you read via the PWRFC should be taken with a pinch of salt.
The CWU admitted tonight that what's been said in the WSWS/SEP reporting is true. Tony Boulch admitted over 6000 routes are missing. Tony Boulch admitted the sorting equipment was never programmed. Sounds like the report was an example of real, on the ground journalism.
Tony Bouch did not ‘admit’ any such thing. He said that the data had to be correct and it’s a well known fact that the data is inaccurate and so it had to all be amended to ensure pilots are operating on the correct data.

That’s not ‘admitting’ to some data crime, he just stated what hass to me done.
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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tramssirhc wrote:
13 Mar 2025, 21:37
moon71 wrote:
11 Mar 2025, 18:44
stage3 wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 19:49
The general sentiment was that the CWU is untrustworthy and part of management, with workers treated as fodder and moved around from their duties, “The union rep does the rotas, that tells you something,” added the postie.


Is that a proven fact, or fictional story telling. It's proven everything you read via the PWRFC should be taken with a pinch of salt.
The CWU admitted tonight that what's been said in the WSWS/SEP reporting is true. Tony Boulch admitted over 6000 routes are missing. Tony Boulch admitted the sorting equipment was never programmed. Sounds like the report was an example of real, on the ground journalism.
More bullshit ffs
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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Sean06 wrote:
13 Mar 2025, 22:54
tramssirhc wrote:
13 Mar 2025, 21:37
moon71 wrote:
11 Mar 2025, 18:44
stage3 wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 19:49
The general sentiment was that the CWU is untrustworthy and part of management, with workers treated as fodder and moved around from their duties, “The union rep does the rotas, that tells you something,” added the postie.


Is that a proven fact, or fictional story telling. It's proven everything you read via the PWRFC should be taken with a pinch of salt.
The CWU admitted tonight that what's been said in the WSWS/SEP reporting is true. Tony Boulch admitted over 6000 routes are missing. Tony Boulch admitted the sorting equipment was never programmed. Sounds like the report was an example of real, on the ground journalism.
More bullshit ffs
In response to the high lighted part, cwu reps are invited into staff resourcing meetings. To dress this up as cwu collusion is simply manipulative to the reader.

Another stage3 manipulative post bearing no truth but pushing an agenda.

Makes the reader distrust the PWRFC more and more with every half truth and manipulation of the facts.
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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Sean06 wrote:
13 Mar 2025, 22:54
tramssirhc wrote:
13 Mar 2025, 21:37
moon71 wrote:
11 Mar 2025, 18:44
stage3 wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 19:49
The general sentiment was that the CWU is untrustworthy and part of management, with workers treated as fodder and moved around from their duties, “The union rep does the rotas, that tells you something,” added the postie.


Is that a proven fact, or fictional story telling. It's proven everything you read via the PWRFC should be taken with a pinch of salt.
The CWU admitted tonight that what's been said in the WSWS/SEP reporting is true. Tony Boulch admitted over 6000 routes are missing. Tony Boulch admitted the sorting equipment was never programmed. Sounds like the report was an example of real, on the ground journalism.
More bullshit ffs
More bullshit from the CWU right enough
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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moon71 wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 04:11
Sean06 wrote:
13 Mar 2025, 22:54
tramssirhc wrote:
13 Mar 2025, 21:37
moon71 wrote:
11 Mar 2025, 18:44
stage3 wrote:
10 Mar 2025, 19:49
The general sentiment was that the CWU is untrustworthy and part of management, with workers treated as fodder and moved around from their duties, “The union rep does the rotas, that tells you something,” added the postie.


Is that a proven fact, or fictional story telling. It's proven everything you read via the PWRFC should be taken with a pinch of salt.
The CWU admitted tonight that what's been said in the WSWS/SEP reporting is true. Tony Boulch admitted over 6000 routes are missing. Tony Boulch admitted the sorting equipment was never programmed. Sounds like the report was an example of real, on the ground journalism.
More bullshit ffs
In response to the high lighted part, cwu reps are invited into staff resourcing meetings. To dress this up as cwu collusion is simply manipulative to the reader.

Another stage3 manipulative post bearing no truth but pushing an agenda.

Makes the reader distrust the PWRFC more and more with every half truth and manipulation of the facts.
Taking part in resource meetings is a very different thing to 'doing the rota'. Journalists can only report what their told. That's what the WSWS/SEP have done.
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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tramssirhc wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 07:04
Journalists can only report what their told. That's what the WSWS/SEP have done.
What their told? Do you work for the CWU grammar department?

A half decent journalist would know that they have to verify the accuracy of what they are told and their sources.
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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tramssirhc wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 07:04
Journalists can only report what their told. That's what the WSWS/SEP have done.
Even those on the Far Left can't be this naive, can they?
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

Post by Londonsburning »

clashcityrocker wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 07:38
tramssirhc wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 07:04
Journalists can only report what their told. That's what the WSWS/SEP have done.
What their told? Do you work for the CWU grammar department?
That is what I would class as a sly dig. Bait even :no no
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

Post by tramssirhc »

clashcityrocker wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 07:38
tramssirhc wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 07:04
Journalists can only report what their told. That's what the WSWS/SEP have done.
What their told? Do you work for the CWU grammar department?

A half decent journalist would know that they have to verify the accuracy of what they are told and their sources.
I'm not paid tens of thousands of pounds, money by the way that comes directly out of the pocket of honest decent postal workers, to play pretend TV and put out comms that aren't proofed.
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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Londonsburning wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 14:58
clashcityrocker wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 07:38
tramssirhc wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 07:04
Journalists can only report what their told. That's what the WSWS/SEP have done.
What their told? Do you work for the CWU grammar department?
That is what I would class as a sly dig. Bait even :no no
See my reply.
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Tman wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 09:45
tramssirhc wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 07:04
Journalists can only report what their told. That's what the WSWS/SEP have done.
Even those on the Far Left can't be this naive, can they?
You'd be stood in a pen putting your hand up hoping the overseer picked you if it wasn't for the 'far left'.
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Re: Royal Mail workers in Scotland speak against USO pilots: “The CWU is trying to dress this up”

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tramssirhc wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 15:29

I'm not paid tens of thousands of pounds, money by the way that comes directly out of the pocket of honest decent postal workers, to play pretend TV and put out comms that aren't proofed.
No but you aren't going to pass your GCSE English Lit if you don't pay attention to detail.
Have you finished Animal Farm yet?
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