Nobody can realistically be a breadwinner as an OPG now

[clashcityrocker]

I'm glad you have agreed that I'm not being racist

I don't know where you got that idea from?

Because it's always been about numbers not race, you think I'm being racist when I'm not, you blinkered world view is anyone who object to excess immigration is automatically a racist.

Anyone who talks about "the floodgates being opened" and anyone who talks about "excess immigration" clearly has an agenda.
It is a racist agenda.
And while you hide behind your pseudo-intellectual "numbers not race" argument you open the "floodgates" for the likes of dingo99 to post their racist diatribes.
Farage and Tommy Robinson - 2 sides of the same coin. Not anti immigration but anti immigrant. Racists.

[NWpostie]

I'm glad you have agreed that I'm not being racist

I don't know where you got that idea from?

Because it's always been about numbers not race, you think I'm being racist when I'm not, you blinkered world view is anyone who object to excess immigration is automatically a racist.

Anyone who talks about "the floodgates being opened" and anyone who talks about "excess immigration" clearly has an agenda.
It is a racist agenda.
And while you hide behind your pseudo-intellectual "numbers not race" argument you open the "floodgates" for the likes of dingo99 to post their racist diatribes.
Farage and Tommy Robinson - 2 sides of the same coin. Not anti immigration but anti immigrant. Racists.

You're talking rubbish and you know it just cover up your inverse prejudice.

A quote comes to mind.

"What the communists couldn't control by consent, they control by force". Sounds like you

[Londonsburning]

{is this where you do your usual trick of taking the thread off down a rabbit hole and everyone gives up replying?}

Looks like it.

[sindba]

Who let the racists in?

This is a postal worker forum, not a Reform or BNP talking shop.

[Mike G]

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/ ... on-389985/

Immigration isn't the problem
It never has been.

"Writing for the Guardian he said.."
Yeah, he would be unbiased then.
If immigrants are so valuable financially why doesn't every country in Europe (if not the West) cry out for more of them, and why do those same countries warehouse those immigrants often far away from all that work they could be doing?

The country does cry out for them. Ignore your copy of the mail engage your brain and research birth rates for this country. They are at record low levels. We have managed to allow the wealthy to plunder this country to such a degree that working poor folks can’t afford to have children any more.

We have also managed to make it impossible for the kids actually being born here to get an education due to the crippling finances involved. So the population is getting older, we have no trained people coming in because immigration = bad and nobody capable of filling vital roles in society.

Do you see the problem?

!

If you are going to copy and paste this toss from the far right manifesto at least correct the grammar and spelling mistakes.

The thing that unthinking, virtue signalling simpletons can't seem to grasp is that the ONLY reason we've had mass immigration for the last 2 decades is because the avaricious and exploitative corporations and the parasitic rentier establishment want it because they and THEY ALONE profit massively from it.

With devalued labour, suppressed wages, eroded workers right AND increased demand for accommodation it's a win-win for them, they love the idea of a whole class of workers who are little more than slaves earning often illegally low pay with abysmal Employee T&C's and all living in squalid, fetid overcrowded HMO's.

And the real kicker is these greedy exploitative corporations and parasitic rentier classes, the very epitome of the political right, have brainwashed the liberal left into being their Useful Idiots with their moronic support of mass immigration.

[Wullie10]

The problems started after those ridiculous lock downs to save granny. Now granny has died of old age and the country has never recovered. When you print money so the majority of the country can sit at home turning into to lazy alcoholics inflation was bound to occur and its never recoved what ever the official figure say it is. I think it was Norway that was actually paying you to take a mortgage. Interest rates were so low. Now those days are gone. A decent percentage of your wage is going towards the thousands who have decided after two years of sitting at home watching TV getting drunk is actually better than working.

[clashcityrocker]

And the real kicker is these greedy exploitative corporations and parasitic rentier classes, the very epitome of the political right, have brainwashed the liberal left into being their Useful Idiots with their moronic support of mass immigration.

Enoch Powell has come to join Tommy and Nigel.
Deep joy.

[Mike G]

And the real kicker is these greedy exploitative corporations and parasitic rentier classes, the very epitome of the political right, have brainwashed the liberal left into being their Useful Idiots with their moronic support of mass immigration.

Enoch Powell has come to join Tommy and Nigel.
Deep joy.

Thank you for confirming everything I've come to expect regarding the level of intellect and debating ability from a typical virtue signalling, low information leftie.

Hi Pol Pot.

[LouBarlow]

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/ ... on-389985/

Immigration isn't the problem
It never has been.

"Writing for the Guardian he said.."
Yeah, he would be unbiased then.
If immigrants are so valuable financially why doesn't every country in Europe (if not the West) cry out for more of them, and why do those same countries warehouse those immigrants often far away from all that work they could be doing?

The country does cry out for them. Ignore your copy of the mail engage your brain and research birth rates for this country. They are at record low levels. We have managed to allow the wealthy to plunder this country to such a degree that working poor folks can’t afford to have children any more.

We have also managed to make it impossible for the kids actually being born here to get an education due to the crippling finances involved. So the population is getting older, we have no trained people coming in because immigration = bad and nobody capable of filling vital roles in society.

Do you see the problem?

!

If you are going to copy and paste this toss from the far right manifesto at least correct the grammar and spelling mistakes.

The thing that unthinking, virtue signalling simpletons can't seem to grasp is that the ONLY reason we've had mass immigration for the last 2 decades is because the avaricious and exploitative corporations and the parasitic rentier establishment want it because they and THEY ALONE profit massively from it.

With devalued labour, suppressed wages, eroded workers right AND increased demand for accommodation it's a win-win for them, they love the idea of a whole class of workers who are little more than slaves earning often illegally low pay with abysmal Employee T&C's and all living in squalid, fetid overcrowded HMO's.

And the real kicker is these greedy exploitative corporations and parasitic rentier classes, the very epitome of the political right, have brainwashed the liberal left into being their Useful Idiots with their moronic support of mass immigration.

I think you will find that those of us on the ‘liberal left’ are as angry at the corporations exploiting this slave labour as anyone on the right. We also acknowledge the hypocrisy of those on the right blaming brown immigrants for their drain on the country all the while supporting rich white oligarchs who wash their dirty money in this country while buying up property for overseas i.e foreign investors.

Foreigners now own our industries, be it water or energy, they run down the infrastructure, claim poverty so as to rise bills for us all, yet still pay their directors millions and send billions of pounds overseas. And yet people are bemoaning asylum seekers taking up rooms in a shitty hotel. Wake up.

[Mike G]

The problems started after those ridiculous lock downs to save granny. Now granny has died of old age and the country has never recovered. When you print money so the majority of the country can sit at home turning into to lazy alcoholics inflation was bound to occur and its never recoved what ever the official figure say it is. I think it was Norway that was actually paying you to take a mortgage. Interest rates were so low. Now those days are gone. A decent percentage of your wage is going towards the thousands who have decided after two years of sitting at home watching TV getting drunk is actually better than working.

Wages have been suppressed at unprecedented levels never before encountered for over 2 decades now, since long before covid.

The great covid money printing scam just compounded the problem of the low value of labour and the disparity between wages and living costs, in particular wages and assets.

[Mike G]

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/ ... on-389985/

Immigration isn't the problem
It never has been.

"Writing for the Guardian he said.."
Yeah, he would be unbiased then.
If immigrants are so valuable financially why doesn't every country in Europe (if not the West) cry out for more of them, and why do those same countries warehouse those immigrants often far away from all that work they could be doing?

The country does cry out for them. Ignore your copy of the mail engage your brain and research birth rates for this country. They are at record low levels. We have managed to allow the wealthy to plunder this country to such a degree that working poor folks can’t afford to have children any more.

We have also managed to make it impossible for the kids actually being born here to get an education due to the crippling finances involved. So the population is getting older, we have no trained people coming in because immigration = bad and nobody capable of filling vital roles in society.

Do you see the problem?

!

If you are going to copy and paste this toss from the far right manifesto at least correct the grammar and spelling mistakes.

The thing that unthinking, virtue signalling simpletons can't seem to grasp is that the ONLY reason we've had mass immigration for the last 2 decades is because the avaricious and exploitative corporations and the parasitic rentier establishment want it because they and THEY ALONE profit massively from it.

With devalued labour, suppressed wages, eroded workers right AND increased demand for accommodation it's a win-win for them, they love the idea of a whole class of workers who are little more than slaves earning often illegally low pay with abysmal Employee T&C's and all living in squalid, fetid overcrowded HMO's.

And the real kicker is these greedy exploitative corporations and parasitic rentier classes, the very epitome of the political right, have brainwashed the liberal left into being their Useful Idiots with their moronic support of mass immigration.

I think you will find that those of us on the ‘liberal left’ are as angry at the corporations exploiting this slave labour as anyone on the right. We also acknowledge the hypocrisy of those on the right blaming brown immigrants for their drain on the country all the while supporting rich white oligarchs who wash their dirty money in this country while buying up property for overseas i.e foreign investors.

Foreigners now own our industries, be it water or energy, they run down the infrastructure, claim poverty so as to rise bills for us all, yet still pay their directors millions and send billions of pounds overseas. And yet people are bemoaning asylum seekers taking up rooms in a shitty hotel. Wake up.

You still just don't get it do you, its like banging my head against a brick wall.

The only reason that that slave labour exists is because the exploitative corporations and parasitic rentier classes want it.... if they didn't want it it wouldn't be here and you liberal lefties would have no exploited immigrants to be angry on their behalf about.

I'm pretty sure 4 star hotels and wedding venues aren't "shitty" and the millions of pounds per day being spent on accommodating so called "asylum seekers" in them is just another example of the huge wealth transfer scam taking place where by corporations and rentiers are profiteering from mass immigration.

An absolute prime example of a Useful Idiot... being hoodwinked into supporting a state of affairs that massively benefits the institutions that you are most politically and ideologically opposed to.

We live in a Corporatocracy where the most avaricious and parasitic corporations, financial institutions and rentier class establishment are enriching themselves at unprecedented levels... and mass immigration is an absolute key element of their self-enrichment strategy. (No support of rich white oligarchs here you see)

[clashcityrocker]

Let's forget about immigration and just enjoy the football tonight.
I think I will watch the Arsenal game :
Raya, Timber, Saliba, Gabriel, Calafiori, Jorginho, Odegaard, Trossard, Merino.

And then catch the end of the Liverpool game:
Alisson, Konate, Tsimikas, Van Dijk, Gravenberch, MacAllister (he isn't even a Scot) Szoboszlai
Luis Diaz, Salah, Jota.

And so many more.

[thefox]

You should watch an aberdeen game,they have a Palestinian playing for them..... right up your street....he's shite right enough.

[NWpostie]

Let's forget about immigration and just enjoy the football tonight.
I think I will watch the Arsenal game :
Raya, Timber, Saliba, Gabriel, Calafiori, Jorginho, Odegaard, Trossard, Merino.

And then catch the end of the Liverpool game:
Alisson, Konate, Tsimikas, Van Dijk, Gravenberch, MacAllister (he isn't even a Scot) Szoboszlai
Luis Diaz, Salah, Jota.

And so many more.

Classic deflection.

You still don't get it.

[sindba]

The greatest achievement of the rich is to convince the poor that other poor people (immigrants, foreigners, the unemployed) are to blame for life's problems.

If you blame immigrants, or covid, or benefits, or some conspiracy theory - you've been played, by rich people who hate you.