RM have made the walks so long that on busy days at present it's difficult/impossible to clear, now they want to double and even triple the mail on the same length walks and the CWU seem content to accept that's a reasonable suggestion.funkflex55 wrote: ↑02 Feb 2025, 12:23A lot of walks are not possible currently with one day of mail. They won't suddenly won't become possible with 2 or 3 days mail. They'll become even more impossible when 2 or 3 days mail will need throwing in and prepping before going out.
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TopperGas
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SMS1969
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And it’s all supposed to help with fatigue, absolute joke. 
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SpacePhoenix
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DTS isn't going away, it's probably the only thing stopping DOs getting their 1C as manual on the non-2C days as just the 1C alone won't be worth turning the machines onyellowbelly wrote: ↑02 Feb 2025, 20:00Posted this on another thread, from a CWU bulletin, doesn't this mean exactly what you guys are saying - the non-priority items?
First-class mail and all parcels will be delivered to every
address 6 days per week, Monday through Saturday.
Non-priority items such as 2nd class and downstream access,
unless they pay more, will be delivered to an address every other
day, Monday through Friday. This means every address will get 5
deliveries of non-priority items over 10 days, but they will get a
delivery every day of 1st class and parcels.
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sorefeet17
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Don't forget to prep in the d2d's as well, only 2 days of delivery on b route that week, so you will be going to pretty much every call anyway, as well as doing all the backed up small packets.
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GRS
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Just another complicated way of putting a sheet of paper through a hole in the door of knocking with a cardboard’s box.
Oh no I forgot…..we’ve got to change everything we do cos this is how do things in Germany, Turkey, Spain Denmark, The Solomon Islands etc etc etc!!!!
Oh no I forgot…..we’ve got to change everything we do cos this is how do things in Germany, Turkey, Spain Denmark, The Solomon Islands etc etc etc!!!!
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Dingo99
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I have lost all faith in humanity with these graduates at the helm! Like you say, simple job made unnecessarily harder, fuc* witsGRS wrote: ↑03 Feb 2025, 19:36Just another complicated way of putting a sheet of paper through a hole in the door of knocking with a cardboard’s box.
Oh no I forgot…..we’ve got to change everything we do cos this is how do things in Germany, Turkey, Spain Denmark, The Solomon Islands etc etc etc!!!!
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Crowseer
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None of this is about delivering mail or giving staff extra Saturdays off etc. It’s setting the company up to be plundered by a billionaire for when he takes it over in a few weeks. Once the ink has dried on the purchase document the USO will go and the EP group will rip up the agreement with the union and back track everything. The excuse will be the excuse of our time….”we’ve looked at the figures and it’s worse than we thought”. It doesn’t take a genius to work out that this new method of working willl involve massive job losses. How else are they going to save £300m? Once the USO has gone there will be no regulation of any of the mail. They’ve even built in a ridiculous get out for failing 1st class before it’s even trialled.
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SMS1969
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Signed and passed on
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Dexydog
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Why are the union not distributing this petition throughout the membership?
Funny that.
Funny that.
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Londonsburning
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You know those criminal gangs who do a 'smash and grab' on jewellers and banks etc. Yeah, it's basically the same thing but the 'criminal' is already billionaire, and it's not illegal. (Though you could say it's morally worse)Crowseer wrote: ↑03 Feb 2025, 21:48None of this is about delivering mail or giving staff extra Saturdays off etc. It’s setting the company up to be plundered by a billionaire for when he takes it over in a few weeks. Once the ink has dried on the purchase document the USO will go and the EP group will rip up the agreement with the union and back track everything. The excuse will be the excuse of our time….”we’ve looked at the figures and it’s worse than we thought”. It doesn’t take a genius to work out that this new method of working willl involve massive job losses. How else are they going to save £300m? Once the USO has gone there will be no regulation of any of the mail. They’ve even built in a ridiculous get out for failing 1st class before it’s even trialled.
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So I take it there are 3 people to 4 walks?
If one of those 3 is a part timer then does 2 full timers need to prep 4 walks of D2D's instead of 2 walks they are doing now, bearing in mind some weeks you can have 4 leaflets?
Has anyone got any feedback that are actually on these trials right now?
If one of those 3 is a part timer then does 2 full timers need to prep 4 walks of D2D's instead of 2 walks they are doing now, bearing in mind some weeks you can have 4 leaflets?
Has anyone got any feedback that are actually on these trials right now?
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yellowbelly
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Re: Delivery Method Change?
I would imagine the official trials only started yesterday so I would imagine nobody's got a clue what they're supposed to be doingpostiewhite wrote: ↑04 Feb 2025, 08:52So I take it there are 3 people to 4 walks?
If one of those 3 is a part timer then does 2 full timers need to prep 4 walks of D2D's instead of 2 walks they are doing now, bearing in mind some weeks you can have 4 leaflets?
Has anyone got any feedback that are actually on these trials right now?
or how well it's going yet!
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Jefferson Starfish
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I think the plan is D2D's will be prepped on Saturdays by the people not going out on delivery.?postiewhite wrote: ↑04 Feb 2025, 08:52So I take it there are 3 people to 4 walks?
If one of those 3 is a part timer then does 2 full timers need to prep 4 walks of D2D's instead of 2 walks they are doing now, bearing in mind some weeks you can have 4 leaflets?
Has anyone got any feedback that are actually on these trials right now?
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Londonsburning
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It is an absolute PITA trying to prep mail into a double slotted frame full of households.Jefferson Starfish wrote: ↑04 Feb 2025, 09:06I think the plan is D2D's will be prepped on Saturdays by the people not going out on delivery.?postiewhite wrote: ↑04 Feb 2025, 08:52So I take it there are 3 people to 4 walks?
If one of those 3 is a part timer then does 2 full timers need to prep 4 walks of D2D's instead of 2 walks they are doing now, bearing in mind some weeks you can have 4 leaflets?
Has anyone got any feedback that are actually on these trials right now?