Oppose the USO pilots imposed by CWU and Royal Mail!

[Sean06]

There's nothing you can't to do for yourself that the CWU won't do.

Can you negotiate your own conduct code?
Can you negotiate your own attendance procedure?
Can you increase your contracted hours on your own?
Can you negotiate your own severance package?

Your anti-union right-wing tirades are as boring as they are inaccurate.
Try writing to Elon. He might be interested in your politics.

The answer to all those questions is yes.

Please explain how you go about doing all the above.

[stage3]

Rather than throw around accusations lets deal with reality. In terms of fawning in front of Elon Musk it was Dave Ward who cited him and Jeff Bezos , stating they would know how to use the USO infrastructure. This has been part of his endless pro-market pitch and why he has embraced the Kretinsky take-over as a "fresh start". This has been rubber stamped by the most right wing Labour government in history. What is laughable is to make out the PWRFC is on the side of the oligarchs, not the Labour government and its bureaucratic partners at CWU HQ.

The PWRFC is not "anti-union" it anti- union bureaucracy for the rank and file taking charge and removing the pro-company yes men. This is to assert the rights of workers against shareholder profits which in this case will be a gang of equity spivs and asset strippers.

The statement on the USO pilots is a prime example of why the a rank and file is needed. They are being enforced over the heads of members by the Postal Executive and Divisional Reps to trial a slash and burn of the USO and thousands of jobs. The £300 million of "savings" per year will all go into coffers of EP Group and Kretinsky.

In opposition to this undemocratic stitch-up it does put forward an alternative course of action - for workplace meetings to be called for the rank and file to have their say and right to collectively oppose being strong armed into this joint union-management exercise at the expense of their jobs and working conditions.

[pieoftheday]

I keep seeing this ' rank and file committee ' cropping up, what is it? Who are they? Names? Images of said committee? What do they do?

[stage3]

The Postal Workers Rank and File Committee was established in April 2023 to oppose Ward's sellout agreement with Royal Mail.

It has held regular on line meetings of postal workers , published statements, open letters and campaigns at DO's and Mail Centres around the country. With the assistance of the World Socialist Web Site the testimony of hundreds of postal workers have been published where they have spoken out against crippling workloads, the undermining of the USO and automation/AI to wipe out jobs.

You can find out more about its aims which I summarised in the link below with information on how it works with rank and file committees of postal workers internationally to develop a coordinated fightback against big business which determines government policy in every country. This includes Canada, America and Australia whose national carriers are being restructured and primed for privatisation.

On the major issue of victimisation the PWRFC has mounted a major campaign to blow the lid on this both in terms of the stitch-up of reps in the Falconer Review and how this has enabled a culture of bullying and unfair dismissals aided and abetted by the CWU. The most recent example was the YouTube video interview with Des Beech.

https://www.wsws.org/en/special/pages/r ... rkers.html

[clashcityrocker]

I keep seeing this ' rank and file committee '. What do they do?

If we were being polite we would say agitate.
If we were being honest - the answer is nothing.

[Sean06]

I keep seeing this ' rank and file committee ' cropping up, what is it? Who are they? Names? Images of said committee? What do they do?

For postal workers absolutely nothing.

[tramssirhc]

There's nothing you can't to do for yourself that the CWU won't do.

Can you negotiate your own conduct code?
Can you negotiate your own attendance procedure?
Can you increase your contracted hours on your own?
Can you negotiate your own severance package?

Your anti-union right-wing tirades are as boring as they are inaccurate.
Try writing to Elon. He might be interested in your politics.

Tramssirhc is far from right wing. He is a practicing socialist, promoter of the much despised PWRFC and advocate of the WSWS, who's bigoted and promotional attacks upon the CWU and RM are well on display recently to help promote the recruitment an interest in the PWRFC.

This hate filled organisation is attempting to brainwash, coerce, and driving divisive agenda of hate for postal workers beggers belief in my opinion and seriously needs shutting down, but some how this hateful bigotry is protected on this forum.

I stopped posting against this PWRFC but reading this thread clearly shows the strength of feelings against stated bigotry, defamatory behaviour.

And still after months I have seen nothing positive offered by the PWRFC.

I'll take no lessons from moon71 who wouldn't know the right from the far right and has happily engaged in extreme rhetoric. Moon71 clearly has no understanding of the slurs that moon71 throws around. You only have to look at the posts moon71 had made. Moon71 is everything moon71 accuses a rank and file led organisation of being. If anything should be shut down it's moon71. Keep it up, it just drives up the optics up.

[tramssirhc]

Tramssirhc is far from right wing. He is a practicing socialist, promoter of the much despised PWRFC and advocate of the WSWS,

In April 2019, three former members of the Revolutionary Communist Party, Claire Fox, James Heartfield and Alka Sehgal Cuthbert, were selected as candidates for Nigel Farage's Brexit Party in the 2019 European Parliament election in the United Kingdom. Stuart Waiton stood in Dundee West at the 2019 general election, also for the Brexit Party.

Just because people pose as "far from right wing" it doesn't mean they are.
The anti-trade union agenda is a right-wing agenda.
Don't let them tell you otherwise.
He has more in common with Musk than he does with "the working class".

You know nothing about me and you will apologise for that slur. There's a huge difference between being critical and being anti something. Nothing that I've said about the CWU is untrue. Nothing I've said about the trade union movement is untrue. You conflate criticism with disloyalty. That's a classic industrial and political right wing manoeuvre. You are on the right wing of the trade union movement. You have no understanding of the history of the working class and our struggle. And let's be clear you don't care either.

[clashcityrocker]

You have no understanding of the history of the working class and our struggle.

Back in the garage with my bullshit detector.

[FilthyBloke]

The changes are coming no matter what. But Just like with the last dispute 2 years ago the CWU will have to find a deal that benefits them first.

Talks of secret meetings and not engaging with the members is not a new thing. On top of that the CWU tried with industrial action last time and it did nothing. They are weaker now at the negotiating table.

I see the job as something which is ideal to me. If the changes make it less ideal but still more ideal than anything else available then I will stay. Otherwise I’ll be looking elsewhere.

But these changes, and more to come, are gonna happen.

Like somebody else mentioned, just work to your time. Don’t get involved in heated discussions with your manager and just do what you can in your time. Take you lunch break. Do van checks. Don’t be bullied.

[moon71]

Exactly. If your not happy and think you'll get a better deal, go to greener grass then.

Never will the PWRFC be recognised in the workplace. No recognition, no value and nothing positive.

[Tman]

Has anyone ever come forward and stated that they're a member, that there's X other members too, and together we've achieved....?
Doesn't seem to be.

[stage3]

You have no understanding of the history of the working class and our struggle.

Back in the garage with my bullshit detector.

in your case its more like working for the Clampdown.

"But you grow up and you calm down
And you're working for the clampdown
You start wearing the blue and brown
And you're working for the clampdown"

[clashcityrocker]

You have no understanding of the history of the working class and our struggle.

Back in the garage with my bullshit detector.

in your case its more like working for the Clampdown.

"But you grow up and you calm down
And you're working for the clampdown
You start wearing the blue and brown
And you're working for the clampdown"

I think this bit in Clampdown is for you:
We will teach our twisted speech to the young believers.
We will train our blue-eyed men
To be young believers


Whereas the bit for me goes
The judge said five to ten but I said double that again
I'm not working for the clampdown
No man born with a living soul
Can be working for the clampdown.

We can trade Clash lyrics all you like but it won't alter the fact that you are full of s**t.
You can't come on here and continually disparage the trade union movement and not expect any pushback.

[clashcityrocker]

You know nothing about me and you will apologise for that slur.

And what if I don't?
You do make me laugh.