'likely loss of delivery allowance' - Walsh has admitted he's sold the functional supplements to fund a pay rise. Now that's living in the real world.TopperGas wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 19:13Leave the CWU and accept a minimal pay rise, likely loss of the delivery allowance and paid lunch breaks and also little chance of VR being increased from 9 months. It sounds like telling turkeys to vote for Christmas in November!scotchy1962 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 19:03Interesting concept..... leave the tinpot union, but in return stand against what RM are attempting to implement without the legal protection that the union provides, therefore losing your job when you protest with no legal protection.tramssirhc wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 18:45Terry Pullinger once said that WSWS wouldn't be interested in postal workers after the strike. Terry and the CWU were wrong. The WSWS is still standing up for workers long after the CWU gave up and Terry took his pension. Return the favour by leaving that tinpot Union.
Yeah that'll get us leaving in our droves!
Hard to know how so many lunatics have managed to escape the asylum at the same time.
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Oppose the USO pilots imposed by CWU and Royal Mail!
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tramssirhc
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"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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tramssirhc
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Re: Oppose the USO pilots imposed by CWU and Royal Mail!
The CWU provides no legal protections - employment law does that. This is a union that signed a legally binding contract with an employer and then admitted it couldn't afford to enforce it once it was broken. There's nothing you can't to do for yourself that the CWU won't do.scotchy1962 wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 19:03Interesting concept..... leave the tinpot union, but in return stand against what RM are attempting to implement without the legal protection that the union provides, therefore losing your job when you protest with no legal protection.tramssirhc wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 18:45Terry Pullinger once said that WSWS wouldn't be interested in postal workers after the strike. Terry and the CWU were wrong. The WSWS is still standing up for workers long after the CWU gave up and Terry took his pension. Return the favour by leaving that tinpot Union.
Yeah that'll get us leaving in our droves!
Hard to know how so many lunatics have managed to escape the asylum at the same time.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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Poppyellie69
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Re: Oppose the USO pilots imposed by CWU and Royal Mail!
Well said,what kretinsky says goes,he's not throwing his money down a well, legacy payments will go and uso amended in xchange for a decent pay rise,he's a very shrewd man and knows a good pay rise will suffice to keep the minions happy!
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Poppyellie69
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Also getting ids for an absolute pittance ,3.7 billion company have over 1 billion property assets n well over 1 billion excess in pension fund, and yet evri sold for 2.7 billion with an empty vessel in tow, absolute shame on government and the rest involved,at least dick turpin wore a mask
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Hyrrokkin
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Poppyellie69 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2025, 07:14Also getting ids for an absolute pittance ,3.7 billion company have over 1 billion property assets n well over 1 billion excess in pension fund, and yet evri sold for 2.7 billion with an empty vessel in tow, absolute shame on government and the rest involved,at least dick turpin wore a mask
The man is a thief and the CWU are helping him steal from us - and they know it
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TopperGas
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The Government had no authority to stop the sale on the basis they felt DK was getting the company on the cheap.Poppyellie69 wrote: ↑21 Jan 2025, 07:14Also getting ids for an absolute pittance ,3.7 billion company have over 1 billion property assets n well over 1 billion excess in pension fund, and yet evri sold for 2.7 billion with an empty vessel in tow, absolute shame on government and the rest involved,at least dick turpin wore a mask
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Poppyellie69
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On national security grounds they could have easily but why would they when they are filling their back pockets!!
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How could they easily have stopped the sale on national security grounds?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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clashcityrocker
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Re: Oppose the USO pilots imposed by CWU and Royal Mail!
Can you negotiate your own conduct code?tramssirhc wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 19:33There's nothing you can't to do for yourself that the CWU won't do.
Can you negotiate your own attendance procedure?
Can you increase your contracted hours on your own?
Can you negotiate your own severance package?
Your anti-union right-wing tirades are as boring as they are inaccurate.
Try writing to Elon. He might be interested in your politics.
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moon71
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Re: Oppose the USO pilots imposed by CWU and Royal Mail!
Tramssirhc is far from right wing. He is a practicing socialist, promoter of the much despised PWRFC and advocate of the WSWS, who's bigoted and promotional attacks upon the CWU and RM are well on display recently to help promote the recruitment an interest in the PWRFC.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025, 16:29Can you negotiate your own conduct code?tramssirhc wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 19:33There's nothing you can't to do for yourself that the CWU won't do.
Can you negotiate your own attendance procedure?
Can you increase your contracted hours on your own?
Can you negotiate your own severance package?
Your anti-union right-wing tirades are as boring as they are inaccurate.
Try writing to Elon. He might be interested in your politics.
This hate filled organisation is attempting to brainwash, coerce, and driving divisive agenda of hate for postal workers beggers belief in my opinion and seriously needs shutting down, but some how this hateful bigotry is protected on this forum.
I stopped posting against this PWRFC but reading this thread clearly shows the strength of feelings against stated bigotry, defamatory behaviour.
And still after months I have seen nothing positive offered by the PWRFC.
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clashcityrocker
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In April 2019, three former members of the Revolutionary Communist Party, Claire Fox, James Heartfield and Alka Sehgal Cuthbert, were selected as candidates for Nigel Farage's Brexit Party in the 2019 European Parliament election in the United Kingdom. Stuart Waiton stood in Dundee West at the 2019 general election, also for the Brexit Party.
Just because people pose as "far from right wing" it doesn't mean they are.
The anti-trade union agenda is a right-wing agenda.
Don't let them tell you otherwise.
He has more in common with Musk than he does with "the working class".
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Re: Oppose the USO pilots imposed by CWU and Royal Mail!
RM have peed over the USO for at least the last 5 years. I can't decide if it is funny, shocking or just stunningly naïve of the CWU to think that RM have any intention of sticking to any "new" USO in the future.
There was an article on the news today saying that HMRC are making it almost impossible to contact them by phone in order to bin the service and force people online. RM have been doing that with the USO for years, destroying all reliability with delivering letters, and they will continue to do so. They want it watered down to a point that they will deliver letters when they want to.
But the CWU, bless their little cotton socks, seem to think otherwise.
There was an article on the news today saying that HMRC are making it almost impossible to contact them by phone in order to bin the service and force people online. RM have been doing that with the USO for years, destroying all reliability with delivering letters, and they will continue to do so. They want it watered down to a point that they will deliver letters when they want to.
But the CWU, bless their little cotton socks, seem to think otherwise.
Royal Mail
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
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tramssirhc
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Re: Oppose the USO pilots imposed by CWU and Royal Mail!
The answer to all those questions is yes.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025, 16:29Can you negotiate your own conduct code?tramssirhc wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 19:33There's nothing you can't to do for yourself that the CWU won't do.
Can you negotiate your own attendance procedure?
Can you increase your contracted hours on your own?
Can you negotiate your own severance package?
Your anti-union right-wing tirades are as boring as they are inaccurate.
Try writing to Elon. He might be interested in your politics.
"The leadership will sabotage the fight and only make the slightest move under fear of powerful working class action" - Des Warren
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TopperGas
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tramssirhc wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025, 19:14The answer to all those questions is yes.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025, 16:29Can you negotiate your own conduct code?tramssirhc wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 19:33There's nothing you can't to do for yourself that the CWU won't do.
Can you negotiate your own attendance procedure?
Can you increase your contracted hours on your own?
Can you negotiate your own severance package?
Your anti-union right-wing tirades are as boring as they are inaccurate.
Try writing to Elon. He might be interested in your politics.
But you've virtually zero chance of winning any of them i.e. if RM announce tomorrow they've decided to stick with their present policy of paying 9 months VR what chances as individuals does anybody have of negotiating a higher payment.
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clashcityrocker
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Next you will be claiming the rank and file committees get paid more than everyone else because they can negotiate their own pay rises.tramssirhc wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025, 19:14The answer to all those questions is yes.clashcityrocker wrote: ↑22 Jan 2025, 16:29Can you negotiate your own conduct code?tramssirhc wrote: ↑20 Jan 2025, 19:33There's nothing you can't to do for yourself that the CWU won't do.
Can you negotiate your own attendance procedure?
Can you increase your contracted hours on your own?
Can you negotiate your own severance package?
Your anti-union right-wing tirades are as boring as they are inaccurate.
Try writing to Elon. He might be interested in your politics.
You are so full of crap it is almost funny.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.