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A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.

What would posties prefer as regards the USO reform?

A Wallington week, working 6 days for 5 weeks and a week off
48
13%
Working Monday to Friday on "all mail" days with every Saturday off
206
57%
Working longer days Wednesdays to Fridays delivering parcels on a 4 day week
58
16%
Working a 1st class driving route 5 days a week with a Saturday off
47
13%
 
Total votes: 359

chickenwittle
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by chickenwittle »

Dingo99 wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 19:32
clashcityrocker wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 19:24
TopperGas wrote:
20 Jan 2025, 17:45

There's no room now in most DO's so where are they going to fit another complete sorting frame?
They don't have to add another frame.
They will simply identify one frame as first class. As we do with NHS letters currently.
We stopped segging NHS letters months ago, don't know when or why, just one day I was on the IPS and wasn't given any to prioritise.
We stopped doing for months and have recently started again, make it all make sense.
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by SpacePhoenix »

They're bringing back separate labels for 2C, which suggests that they're going to have the 1C and 2C sorted separately. If they're going to have the 2C sorting not done until ALL the 1C sorting is finished then that could result in a change of dispatch times to the inward MCs as I don't think that just the 1C alone will keep the early runs viable to operate. I think a complete realignment will be coming up soon across the board, depending on how it all plays out
Ozcabsmangan
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by Ozcabsmangan »

What a cruddy job
Idk
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by Idk »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 07:23
They're bringing back separate labels for 2C, which suggests that they're going to have the 1C and 2C sorted separately. If they're going to have the 2C sorting not done until ALL the 1C sorting is finished then that could result in a change of dispatch times to the inward MCs as I don't think that just the 1C alone will keep the early runs viable to operate. I think a complete realignment will be coming up soon across the board, depending on how it all plays out

Christ you wet yourself with excitement every time something changes that it will mean going to the delivery offices later, and your yet to be correct.
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by SpacePhoenix »

Idk wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 13:31
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 07:23
They're bringing back separate labels for 2C, which suggests that they're going to have the 1C and 2C sorted separately. If they're going to have the 2C sorting not done until ALL the 1C sorting is finished then that could result in a change of dispatch times to the inward MCs as I don't think that just the 1C alone will keep the early runs viable to operate. I think a complete realignment will be coming up soon across the board, depending on how it all plays out

Christ you wet yourself with excitement every time something changes that it will mean going to the delivery offices later, and your yet to be correct.
Have you got your head up your arse? These changes are going to affect everyone, not just DOs. Are you stupid enough to think that RM will still have lorry runs, if them runs will be near empty as a result of these changes? :cuppa
GRS
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by GRS »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 19:34
Idk wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 13:31
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 07:23
They're bringing back separate labels for 2C, which suggests that they're going to have the 1C and 2C sorted separately. If they're going to have the 2C sorting not done until ALL the 1C sorting is finished then that could result in a change of dispatch times to the inward MCs as I don't think that just the 1C alone will keep the early runs viable to operate. I think a complete realignment will be coming up soon across the board, depending on how it all plays out

Christ you wet yourself with excitement every time something changes that it will mean going to the delivery offices later, and your yet to be correct.
Have you got your head up your arse? These changes are going to affect everyone, not just DOs. Are you stupid enough to think that RM will still have lorry runs, if them runs will be near empty as a result of these changes? :cuppa
Have heard rumours of start times being changed (again). Rep had to go to a meeting (reps in whole area were told to attend) the other day about this. From what I heard offices being told to expect start times changing by 1:30!!! Maybe that ties up with what’s being said above.
norris9
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by norris9 »

GRS wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 19:40
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 19:34
Idk wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 13:31
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 07:23
They're bringing back separate labels for 2C, which suggests that they're going to have the 1C and 2C sorted separately. If they're going to have the 2C sorting not done until ALL the 1C sorting is finished then that could result in a change of dispatch times to the inward MCs as I don't think that just the 1C alone will keep the early runs viable to operate. I think a complete realignment will be coming up soon across the board, depending on how it all plays out

Christ you wet yourself with excitement every time something changes that it will mean going to the delivery offices later, and your yet to be correct.
Have you got your head up your arse? These changes are going to affect everyone, not just DOs. Are you stupid enough to think that RM will still have lorry runs, if them runs will be near empty as a result of these changes? :cuppa
Have heard rumours of start times being changed (again). Rep had to go to a meeting (reps in whole area were told to attend) the other day about this. From what I heard offices being told to expect start times changing by 1:30!!! Maybe that ties up with what’s being said above.
They have said before about how they want us working later to deliver parcels later in the day....so I am not surprised if we are going to be pushed back to even later starts when this USO change is going to make us even more parcel focused.

I don't really understand why the CWU is keen to agree with Royal Mail that we work less Saturdays and instead work more weekdays. When they have brought this up in CWU Live streams on youtube they speak as if that's what posties want. When did they even poll us on that?...

I'd personally rather have a rolling day off as it breaks up the week. Working 5 days in a row is a drag. I get it - some people will prefer that as they get more full weekends off, but I just don't understand why the CWU assume that most posties want a Mon-Fri working week.
BenacreNick
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by BenacreNick »

The lorries can't get any later, actially, we need the stuff to come in earlier please.
Perseus
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by Perseus »

norris9 wrote:
22 Jan 2025, 14:45
GRS wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 19:40
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 19:34
Idk wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 13:31
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 07:23
They're bringing back separate labels for 2C, which suggests that they're going to have the 1C and 2C sorted separately. If they're going to have the 2C sorting not done until ALL the 1C sorting is finished then that could result in a change of dispatch times to the inward MCs as I don't think that just the 1C alone will keep the early runs viable to operate. I think a complete realignment will be coming up soon across the board, depending on how it all plays out

Christ you wet yourself with excitement every time something changes that it will mean going to the delivery offices later, and your yet to be correct.
Have you got your head up your arse? These changes are going to affect everyone, not just DOs. Are you stupid enough to think that RM will still have lorry runs, if them runs will be near empty as a result of these changes? :cuppa
Have heard rumours of start times being changed (again). Rep had to go to a meeting (reps in whole area were told to attend) the other day about this. From what I heard offices being told to expect start times changing by 1:30!!! Maybe that ties up with what’s being said above.
They have said before about how they want us working later to deliver parcels later in the day....so I am not surprised if we are going to be pushed back to even later starts when this USO change is going to make us even more parcel focused.

I don't really understand why the CWU is keen to agree with Royal Mail that we work less Saturdays and instead work more weekdays. When they have brought this up in CWU Live streams on youtube they speak as if that's what posties want. When did they even poll us on that?...

I'd personally rather have a rolling day off as it breaks up the week. Working 5 days in a row is a drag. I get it - some people will prefer that as they get more full weekends off, but I just don't understand why the CWU assume that most posties want a Mon-Fri working week.
I think the CWU are keeping this up their sleeve to get a lot of offices onside with the changes. Remember, many offices barely saw any change in their start/finish times, whereas some are now out to 4pm, and then some. Many units will still have their 'decent' Saturday finish times too. There is no doubt that the changes this year will mean later times, probably more noticeable for some more than others, and this will be the sweetener.
Dingo99
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by Dingo99 »

I definitely will be doing ZERO o.t at Christmas this year if I have to start later than 7:39 how it is at the moment, actually probably won't do any o.t all year, I was lucky last year that I was finished at 16:00 at the latest last Christmas and I told managers that that is my cut off time anyway as it gets dark in Kent at 16:00 in Dec.
postiewhite
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by postiewhite »

norris9 wrote:
22 Jan 2025, 14:45
GRS wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 19:40
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 19:34
Idk wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 13:31
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Jan 2025, 07:23
They're bringing back separate labels for 2C, which suggests that they're going to have the 1C and 2C sorted separately. If they're going to have the 2C sorting not done until ALL the 1C sorting is finished then that could result in a change of dispatch times to the inward MCs as I don't think that just the 1C alone will keep the early runs viable to operate. I think a complete realignment will be coming up soon across the board, depending on how it all plays out

Christ you wet yourself with excitement every time something changes that it will mean going to the delivery offices later, and your yet to be correct.
Have you got your head up your arse? These changes are going to affect everyone, not just DOs. Are you stupid enough to think that RM will still have lorry runs, if them runs will be near empty as a result of these changes? :cuppa
Have heard rumours of start times being changed (again). Rep had to go to a meeting (reps in whole area were told to attend) the other day about this. From what I heard offices being told to expect start times changing by 1:30!!! Maybe that ties up with what’s being said above.
They have said before about how they want us working later to deliver parcels later in the day....so I am not surprised if we are going to be pushed back to even later starts when this USO change is going to make us even more parcel focused.

I don't really understand why the CWU is keen to agree with Royal Mail that we work less Saturdays and instead work more weekdays. When they have brought this up in CWU Live streams on youtube they speak as if that's what posties want. When did they even poll us on that?...

I'd personally rather have a rolling day off as it breaks up the week. Working 5 days in a row is a drag. I get it - some people will prefer that as they get more full weekends off, but I just don't understand why the CWU assume that most posties want a Mon-Fri working week.
I think in this job 2 days off together gives you a proper rest. I hate rolling days off. My second choice has always been a wednesday off because it breaks the week up nicely. I think the minority would want more Saturdays, not for everyone but I'd say for most people it would benefit as they would be able to spend more time with family, kids etc and go out for days or nights away.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by SpacePhoenix »

BenacreNick wrote:
22 Jan 2025, 15:28
The lorries can't get any later, actially, we need the stuff to come in earlier please.
We don't know yet what the new work plan will be. If it results in there not being very much on early runs, then them runs will likely get axed with the current later runs becoming the new early runs
TopperGas
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by TopperGas »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
22 Jan 2025, 19:24
BenacreNick wrote:
22 Jan 2025, 15:28
The lorries can't get any later, actially, we need the stuff to come in earlier please.
We don't know yet what the new work plan will be. If it results in there not being very much on early runs, then them runs will likely get axed with the current later runs becoming the new early runs
Pretty certain the poll is meant for delivery staff so not sure what "runs" have to do with the poll?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by SpacePhoenix »

TopperGas wrote:
22 Jan 2025, 19:36
SpacePhoenix wrote:
22 Jan 2025, 19:24
BenacreNick wrote:
22 Jan 2025, 15:28
The lorries can't get any later, actially, we need the stuff to come in earlier please.
We don't know yet what the new work plan will be. If it results in there not being very much on early runs, then them runs will likely get axed with the current later runs becoming the new early runs
Pretty certain the poll is meant for delivery staff so not sure what "runs" have to do with the poll?
Changes to MCs workplans like lorries going out later will have a knock-on affect on DOs. Just imagine how it'll affect your DO if the current 2nd run becomes the new 1st run
TopperGas
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Re: A 5 day or a 4 day week??

Post by TopperGas »

Regardless could you explain how that will effect our weekly work schedules, which is what the poll relates to?