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My Performance app

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fadetogrey63
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Re: My Performance app

Post by fadetogrey63 »

twoloops wrote:
26 Dec 2024, 04:03
Told it was job & knock on Christmas Eve, on getting back, told you could only leave when or if you had checked your performance app?
What was all that about eh?
That should of been questioned by your union rep if they were in.. our office had to wait till the last van was back, a few went out affer their duty helping others fin theirs.. We ended up leaving just a hour before normal fin time..
Acca Dacca
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Acca Dacca »

twoloops wrote:
26 Dec 2024, 04:03
Told it was job & knock on Christmas Eve, on getting back, told you could only leave when or if you had checked your performance app?
What was all that about eh?
Im pretty certain that the manager gets bonus if office is compliant with checking it

Ours literally takes your PDA and checks it for you to make sure its done
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
postslippete
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Re: My Performance app

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Acca Dacca wrote:
26 Dec 2024, 23:43
twoloops wrote:
26 Dec 2024, 04:03
Told it was job & knock on Christmas Eve, on getting back, told you could only leave when or if you had checked your performance app?
What was all that about eh?
Im pretty certain that the manager gets bonus if office is compliant with checking it

Ours literally takes your PDA and checks it for you to make sure its done

There is a list in our office with all our names and PDA login codes. Someone in our office is given a list of names to go through with the sole purpose of logging in and going through myperformance. I could say a lot more than this which goes on....but it is related to the managers £5k bonus. There was also a rumour that the managers were also paid extra over and above their contractual salaries for delivering parcels last Sunday :silenced
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Barnacle
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Barnacle »

postslippete wrote:
27 Dec 2024, 11:40
Acca Dacca wrote:
26 Dec 2024, 23:43
twoloops wrote:
26 Dec 2024, 04:03
Told it was job & knock on Christmas Eve, on getting back, told you could only leave when or if you had checked your performance app?
What was all that about eh?
Im pretty certain that the manager gets bonus if office is compliant with checking it

Ours literally takes your PDA and checks it for you to make sure its done

There is a list in our office with all our names and PDA login codes. Someone in our office is given a list of names to go through with the sole purpose of logging in and going through myperformance. I could say a lot more than this which goes on....but it is related to the managers £5k bonus. There was also a rumour that the managers were also paid extra over and above their contractual salaries for delivering parcels last Sunday :silenced
If the someone who is given access isn’t a manager then that’s not right, that should not be happening.

It’s incredible to me that the managers care so little about service levels. They will literally do anything for a bung.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
Mr Rush
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Mr Rush »

Perverse incentives.

I check mine daily anyway because I find the numbers for first time delivery either inscrutable or outright bogus. It usually reports total packets between 60% to 80% of what I know I had, so I figure the non-Tracked don't count. But then I've been out with nothing but letters and somehow it reports the next day I had items. Occassionally it reports more than I know I had. So maybe recorded letters count? Except, seemingly not always. It's all a black box.

My not-delivered-first-time numbers look unnatural when the figurers for the whole year are viewed together.
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Dorset Plodder
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Dorset Plodder »

Checking the ''Doorstep App'' on the PDA is definetly linked to your Managers end of year bonus, which consists of several elements, this being one of them.

DO NOT accept any BS concerning this Bloody App. The lengths Managers are going to should be evidence enough for us all to realise it's only going to be in their favour. And going by some of these posts it's borderline FRAUD! :no no

Fire it up the line to your Area IR Rep and keep complaining. In my Region it was escalated right up to National Level and the result was the Manager in question was told to wind his neck in by Royal Mail's own HR Department! Please don't accept this blatant BS! :cuppa
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
Dorset Plodder
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Dorset Plodder »

Mr Rush wrote:
27 Dec 2024, 19:25
I check mine daily
Why bother? You've already proved to yourself that the figures aren't accurate so what's the point? All you're doing is allowing your Manager to tick yet another box... earn some Brownie Points ... and at the end of the year buy a decent second hand car with his bonus! :cuppa
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
Acca Dacca
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Acca Dacca »

It falls under a reasonable request to check it though

You cant really argue against it, let alone contact HR over it
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
LouBarlow
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Re: My Performance app

Post by LouBarlow »

You are at work being paid by the company. You aren’t being asked to clean the shithouse just look at an app. Contacting HR :chuckle
Barnacle
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Barnacle »

Acca Dacca wrote:
27 Dec 2024, 23:21
It falls under a reasonable request to check it though

You cant really argue against it, let alone contact HR over it
And you can reasonably say that you’ll check it when you have time and then not bother because accessing the app is purely voluntary.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
Acca Dacca
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Acca Dacca »

Barnacle wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 06:25
Acca Dacca wrote:
27 Dec 2024, 23:21
It falls under a reasonable request to check it though

You cant really argue against it, let alone contact HR over it
And you can reasonably say that you’ll check it when you have time and then not bother because accessing the app is purely voluntary.
Its not voluntary if the manager requests you to check it.

Good luck arguing your way out of that one.
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Barnacle
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Barnacle »

Acca Dacca wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 15:20
Barnacle wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 06:25
Acca Dacca wrote:
27 Dec 2024, 23:21
It falls under a reasonable request to check it though

You cant really argue against it, let alone contact HR over it
And you can reasonably say that you’ll check it when you have time and then not bother because accessing the app is purely voluntary.
Its not voluntary if the manager requests you to check it.

Good luck arguing your way out of that one.
I already have. I never look at it. He’s given up asking me.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
Mr Rush
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Mr Rush »

Acca Dacca wrote:
27 Dec 2024, 23:21
It falls under a reasonable request to check it though
If it's so important they could simply tell you what it says, but then presumably that wouldn't trigger the payout. Just look up all the infamous examples of perverse incentives. Is this really about keeping people informed or is it about collecting the bounty?

Another thing I've noticed by keeping tabs on the reported packet numbers is that sometimes they change a few days later. Just another oddity.
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Dorset Plodder
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Dorset Plodder »

Acca Dacca wrote:
28 Dec 2024, 15:20
Its not voluntary if the manager requests you to check it.

Good luck arguing your way out of that one.


I dont follow your argument AD. If it IS (as you've suggested) Voluntary then you're not under any pressure anyway? :hmmmm

The ''Reasonable Request'' card is played far too much by Incompetent Managers. :no no He tried that one and was told (as Barnacle suggested) that the OPG didn't consider it as such. He was then told he'd have to provide a Written Statement explaining why FFS! At this point it was flagged up through the CWU ranks. It's NOT an Urban Myth mate it happened. So why do you really think these Lazy Managers are putting in so much effort to get a Postie to check a Bloody App? :hmmmm

Since that incident the manager hasn't spoken to the OPG about that App again! He is still chasing others and even made it a criteria for Staff to be included in the Advent Calendar of Shite, which is a shame (if discriminatory) because the OPG in question was REALLY keen to win that Royal Mail Water Bottle! :cuppa
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
Downeagle
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Re: My Performance app

Post by Downeagle »

In our office management would send out daily reminders to clear any information updates and then to check My Doorstep for individual driving records etc on the pda.
I and others asked the union rep if this was mandatory and we were told it is not.
I have been pulled up a few times in the past for braking & turning falling below the RM standard and asked to sign a sheet to recommend improvement.
During Christmas week I did have a quick peek at my driving performance statistics during the previous week and noticed some of my driving had fallen to 92% on a few occasions but I received no warning from management.
Was this because I was working until 5pm each day clearing my duty? If so it just proves it’s a nonsense.