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Ban on all extended delivery.

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Mr Rush
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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Barnacle wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 19:12
kazardaimenu wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 17:48
Real quiet today. No one going over if they tried.
Where is this ‘massive increase in parcels’?
When is payday for most of the public? End of the month pay means packets pick up at the turn of the month. Don't make me whip out a spreadsheet to prove it.
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Perseus
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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scotchy1962 wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 19:22
Barnacle wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 19:12
kazardaimenu wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 17:48
Real quiet today. No one going over if they tried.
Where is this ‘massive increase in parcels’?
In my office, 198 tracked on a paired duty with only 1 driver...... me. My partner done letters and i drove about like a idiot trying to get the tracked done in the duty time...... i failed.
No way could you get nearly 200 tracked done in a duty span. Didn't the person doing letters take the tracked for those bags?
Jb1969
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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Your gonna enjoy Wednesday when it’s floods through the system!
postslippete
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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scotchy1962 wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 19:22

In my office, 198 tracked on a paired duty with only 1 driver...... me. My partner done letters and i drove about like a idiot trying to get the tracked done in the duty time...... i failed.

We were told that there should not be two people in a van driving round delivering the Tracked items but I ignore it as it is not workable. By the time you have dropped the non-driver off with the loops, you then drive off and can only deliver a couple of dozen parcels/specials/collections etc before having to come back again to pick the non-driver up and drop them off to the next destination. It is just time wasted for both posties.

It is better if you are both in the same area delivering either the parcels or mail together.
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Pidleypoo
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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postslippete wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 21:42
scotchy1962 wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 19:22

In my office, 198 tracked on a paired duty with only 1 driver...... me. My partner done letters and i drove about like a idiot trying to get the tracked done in the duty time...... i failed.

We were told that there should not be two people in a van driving round delivering the Tracked items but I ignore it as it is not workable. By the time you have dropped the non-driver off with the loops, you then drive off and can only deliver a couple of dozen parcels/specials/collections etc before having to come back again to pick the non-driver up and drop them off to the next destination. It is just time wasted for both posties.

It is better if you are both in the same area delivering either the parcels or mail together.
This is what I do and when it comes to delivering the parcels I’ll take a bag or lwt and deliver a dozen or so and tell the driver to do x street and meet me at another street.

Actually works really well.

Still can only do one delivery a day and the tracked though.
Mr Rush
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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Perseus wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 20:14
No way could you get nearly 200 tracked done in a duty span. Didn't the person doing letters take the tracked for those bags?
Anecdotally, yes it is possible in 4½ hours. Run-up to Halloween last year packets exploded. Driver had anything [Tracked] that didn't fit the letterbox and I took the few [Tracked] that did fit the letterbox along with all the letters for one duty in a trolley. I'm not saying it was easy.

What helped is being able to make decisions quickly about how to tackle the impossible and geting management to acquiesce promptly. It can't be done if you sandbag it or get Analysis Paralysis.
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Perseus
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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Mr Rush wrote:
19 Nov 2024, 17:20
Perseus wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 20:14
No way could you get nearly 200 tracked done in a duty span. Didn't the person doing letters take the tracked for those bags?
Anecdotally, yes it is possible in 4½ hours. Run-up to Halloween last year packets exploded. Driver had anything [Tracked] that didn't fit the letterbox and I took the few [Tracked] that did fit the letterbox along with all the letters for one duty in a trolley. I'm not saying it was easy.

What helped is being able to make decisions quickly about how to tackle the impossible and geting management to acquiesce promptly. It can't be done if you sandbag it or get Analysis Paralysis.
The original example given was 1 person doing the 200 odd tracked for both sides of a duty. It's not sandbagging to say it can't be done in a 4.5 hour period unless you deliver to a utopia where you can make a drop on average every 80 seconds with no 739 cards needed.
clashcityrocker
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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Unless 20 houses have 10 packets each.
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TopperGas
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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clashcityrocker wrote:
19 Nov 2024, 18:34
Unless 20 houses have 10 packets each.
Or one business or block of flats with a concierge as 100 parcels! I reckon 150/160 is the maximum before you loose the will to live, or at least deliver!
twoloops
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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In our office our new afternoon parcel drivers are told they should be hitting 15 to 20 a hour 🤔
scotchy1962
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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Perseus wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 20:14
scotchy1962 wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 19:22
Barnacle wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 19:12
kazardaimenu wrote:
18 Nov 2024, 17:48
Real quiet today. No one going over if they tried.
Where is this ‘massive increase in parcels’?
In my office, 198 tracked on a paired duty with only 1 driver...... me. My partner done letters and i drove about like a idiot trying to get the tracked done in the duty time...... i failed.
No way could you get nearly 200 tracked done in a duty span. Didn't the person doing letters take the tracked for those bags?
Of course he did, unfortunately i would say that was maybe a quarter of them, the oversize parcels have really kicked off.
postslippete
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Re: Ban on all extended delivery.

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scotchy1962 wrote:
19 Nov 2024, 20:16

Of course he did, unfortunately i would say that was maybe a quarter of them, the oversize parcels have really kicked off.

Every year in our office they plan on putting in parcel drivers for delivering parcels and taking the oversized off duties and every time they purposely delay it and leave it until the sh*t has already hit the fan
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