Manager calling on rest week

[Sean06]

Fairly new starter, this week was my first rest week, and was looking forward to having a longer one with the bank hol, however in the week my manager called me asking me to come in friday and today, i felt under pressure to say yes as im still new.. Is it right they can call you up when your off work begging you to come in?

No a manager shouldn’t call you and ask you anything when you are off. If you have a union rep at your work, tell them and then they will remind the manager of their duty not to harass staff when off.

They should'nt be harrassing staff at anytime.

Where does it say harass? As usual on here cuntish behaviour prevails and the cancer continues to be spread. I’ve been contacted on weeks off and sometimes I’ll go in and help and other times I’ll stay off if I can’t be bothered. I’d use something like this to lean on my com further down the line for days off that I want, but sure you do you

Wtf would you go in while on leave?? Royail mail loves idiots like you..you do realise leave weeks or single days or days or times to relax not to be harased by so- called managers.

[Barnacle]

Fairly new starter, this week was my first rest week, and was looking forward to having a longer one with the bank hol, however in the week my manager called me asking me to come in friday and today, i felt under pressure to say yes as im still new.. Is it right they can call you up when your off work begging you to come in?

No a manager shouldn’t call you and ask you anything when you are off. If you have a union rep at your work, tell them and then they will remind the manager of their duty not to harass staff when off.

They should'nt be harrassing staff at anytime.

Where does it say harass? As usual on here cuntish behaviour prevails and the cancer continues to be spread. I’ve been contacted on weeks off and sometimes I’ll go in and help and other times I’ll stay off if I can’t be bothered. I’d use something like this to lean on my com further down the line for days off that I want, but sure you do you

There’s absolutely no need to use foul language.

[Sean06]

Fairly new starter, this week was my first rest week, and was looking forward to having a longer one with the bank hol, however in the week my manager called me asking me to come in friday and today, i felt under pressure to say yes as im still new.. Is it right they can call you up when your off work begging you to come in?

No a manager shouldn’t call you and ask you anything when you are off. If you have a union rep at your work, tell them and then they will remind the manager of their duty not to harass staff when off.

They should'nt be harrassing staff at anytime.

Where does it say harass? As usual on here cuntish behaviour prevails and the cancer continues to be spread. I’ve been contacted on weeks off and sometimes I’ll go in and help and other times I’ll stay off if I can’t be bothered. I’d use something like this to lean on my com further down the line for days off that I want, but sure you do you

There’s absolutely no need to use foul language.

An no need to be harrased either.

[Smoothbackground]

Fairly new starter, this week was my first rest week, and was looking forward to having a longer one with the bank hol, however in the week my manager called me asking me to come in friday and today, i felt under pressure to say yes as im still new.. Is it right they can call you up when your off work begging you to come in?

No a manager shouldn’t call you and ask you anything when you are off. If you have a union rep at your work, tell them and then they will remind the manager of their duty not to harass staff when off.

They should'nt be harrassing staff at anytime.

Where does it say harass? As usual on here cuntish behaviour prevails and the cancer continues to be spread. I’ve been contacted on weeks off and sometimes I’ll go in and help and other times I’ll stay off if I can’t be bothered. I’d use something like this to lean on my com further down the line for days off that I want, but sure you do you

Just the stock mentality of a sizeable minority of staff across RM - and on this forum - to accuse managers of bullying and harassment even over a phone call to them on their personal mobile. Just crazy. Whereas I approach things in exactly the same way as you and reap similar benefits.

[Barnacle]

Fairly new starter, this week was my first rest week, and was looking forward to having a longer one with the bank hol, however in the week my manager called me asking me to come in friday and today, i felt under pressure to say yes as im still new.. Is it right they can call you up when your off work begging you to come in?

No a manager shouldn’t call you and ask you anything when you are off. If you have a union rep at your work, tell them and then they will remind the manager of their duty not to harass staff when off.

They should'nt be harrassing staff at anytime.

Where does it say harass? As usual on here cuntish behaviour prevails and the cancer continues to be spread. I’ve been contacted on weeks off and sometimes I’ll go in and help and other times I’ll stay off if I can’t be bothered. I’d use something like this to lean on my com further down the line for days off that I want, but sure you do you

Just the stock mentality of a sizeable minority of staff across RM - and on this forum - to accuse managers of bullying and harassment even over a phone call to them on their personal mobile. Just crazy. Whereas I approach things in exactly the same way as you and reap similar benefits.

Managers should not be contacting you out of hours. I realise that you think that’s not reasonable and by you being reasonable and answering the phone you are gaining work.

The truth of the matter is that they will cut off that work when it suits them regardless of whether you are Bob who never answers his phone or Daisy who always answers and agrees to work 48hrs in a day.

Be prepared for that so that it doesn’t hit you like a brick when it happens.

[Smoothbackground]

Fairly new starter, this week was my first rest week, and was looking forward to having a longer one with the bank hol, however in the week my manager called me asking me to come in friday and today, i felt under pressure to say yes as im still new.. Is it right they can call you up when your off work begging you to come in?

No a manager shouldn’t call you and ask you anything when you are off. If you have a union rep at your work, tell them and then they will remind the manager of their duty not to harass staff when off.

They should'nt be harrassing staff at anytime.

Where does it say harass? As usual on here cuntish behaviour prevails and the cancer continues to be spread. I’ve been contacted on weeks off and sometimes I’ll go in and help and other times I’ll stay off if I can’t be bothered. I’d use something like this to lean on my com further down the line for days off that I want, but sure you do you

Just the stock mentality of a sizeable minority of staff across RM - and on this forum - to accuse managers of bullying and harassment even over a phone call to them on their personal mobile. Just crazy. Whereas I approach things in exactly the same way as you and reap similar benefits.

Managers should not be contacting you out of hours. I realise that you think that’s not reasonable and by you being reasonable and answering the phone you are gaining work.

The truth of the matter is that they will cut off that work when it suits them regardless of whether you are Bob who never answers his phone or Daisy who always answers and agrees to work 48hrs in a day.

Be prepared for that so that it doesn’t hit you like a brick when it happens.

I’d be just as willing to take a brief call on my day off about something from which I didn’t stand to gain, eg, “Oh, did you put the box keys back in the cabinet when you finished on Saturday?” or “Can you remember whether you had an item for z?” Indeed, I have had several such calls. Sometimes I have called back later the same day as I was busy, but other times I have taken the call. In a similar fashion, I have called managers on my day off to check something etc.

You are right, of course overtime can never be guaranteed, though restrictions on overtime would be edicts from the higher-ups, not from our local managers, and restrictions on overtime are happening at neighbouring DOs right now.

[ted_e_bear]

Fairly new starter, this week was my first rest week, and was looking forward to having a longer one with the bank hol, however in the week my manager called me asking me to come in friday and today, i felt under pressure to say yes as im still new.. Is it right they can call you up when your off work begging you to come in?

No a manager shouldn’t call you and ask you anything when you are off. If you have a union rep at your work, tell them and then they will remind the manager of their duty not to harass staff when off.

They should'nt be harrassing staff at anytime.

Where does it say harass? As usual on here cuntish behaviour prevails and the cancer continues to be spread. I’ve been contacted on weeks off and sometimes I’ll go in and help and other times I’ll stay off if I can’t be bothered. I’d use something like this to lean on my com further down the line for days off that I want, but sure you do you

Just the stock mentality of a sizeable minority of staff across RM - and on this forum - to accuse managers of bullying and harassment even over a phone call to them on their personal mobile. Just crazy. Whereas I approach things in exactly the same way as you and reap similar benefits.

Same, regarding the mentality, that became apparent when I was around 3 weeks in and settled as a newbie and became aware of how things were, I'm "old guard" now 25 years in and it still prevails but one thing I remember from when I first started part time was being told quite aggressively by some cock that overtime was allocated on seniority so if I wanted any I was bottom of the picking order, didn't give a flying at the time as I took this job along with a big drop in pay to get away from the daily hassle and grief that I had in my previous employment, it was certainly an eye opening culture shock.

[Smoothbackground]

Fairly new starter, this week was my first rest week, and was looking forward to having a longer one with the bank hol, however in the week my manager called me asking me to come in friday and today, i felt under pressure to say yes as im still new.. Is it right they can call you up when your off work begging you to come in?

No a manager shouldn’t call you and ask you anything when you are off. If you have a union rep at your work, tell them and then they will remind the manager of their duty not to harass staff when off.

They should'nt be harrassing staff at anytime.

Where does it say harass? As usual on here cuntish behaviour prevails and the cancer continues to be spread. I’ve been contacted on weeks off and sometimes I’ll go in and help and other times I’ll stay off if I can’t be bothered. I’d use something like this to lean on my com further down the line for days off that I want, but sure you do you

Just the stock mentality of a sizeable minority of staff across RM - and on this forum - to accuse managers of bullying and harassment even over a phone call to them on their personal mobile. Just crazy. Whereas I approach things in exactly the same way as you and reap similar benefits.

Same, regarding the mentality, that became apparent when I was around 3 weeks in and settled as a newbie and became aware of how things were, I'm "old guard" now 25 years in and it still prevails but one thing I remember from when I first started part time was being told quite aggressively by some cock that overtime was allocated on seniority so if I wanted any I was bottom of the picking order, didn't give a flying at the time as I took this job along with a big drop in pay to get away from the daily hassle and grief that I had in my previous employment, it was certainly an eye opening culture shock.

Great minds think alike! Think I may have misled slightly though — what I meant was that by being “flexible” in taking their calls, working OT, etc,, I reap the benefits of flexibility back, not just financial (OT) either — nicking the odd hour here and there and getting to knock off early, occasionally clocking out on the PDA and shooting off home when I do LATs and from a far-flung rural DP rather than returning to the office to clock out, swapping rest days, and so on. I am still acclimatising to the culture!

[Barnacle]

occasionally clocking out on the PDA and shooting off home when I do LATs and from a far-flung rural DP rather than returning to the office to clock out...

What do you do with the undeliverable LATs? Also do you park the van at your home? Because that's a big no no unless it's parked on private land over night.

Also, what’s being described is ghosting and there are big moves ahead to end this.

[Seymour Buts]

occasionally clocking out on the PDA and shooting off home when I do LATs and from a far-flung rural DP rather than returning to the office to clock out...

What do you do with the undeliverable LATs? Also do you park the van at your home? Because that's a big no no unless it's parked on private land over night.

Also, what’s being described is ghosting and there are big moves ahead to end this.

Not necessarily. I get my walk share to drop me off at home from time to time, and I return the favour. We still work our full hours.

[Barnacle]

occasionally clocking out on the PDA and shooting off home when I do LATs and from a far-flung rural DP rather than returning to the office to clock out...

What do you do with the undeliverable LATs? Also do you park the van at your home? Because that's a big no no unless it's parked on private land over night.

Also, what’s being described is ghosting and there are big moves ahead to end this.

Not necessarily. I get my walk share to drop me off at home from time to time, and I return the favour. We still work our full hours.

If you are still working your full hours, you aren’t part of the ghosting problem they are trying to crack with a sledgehammer.

[Smoothbackground]

occasionally clocking out on the PDA and shooting off home when I do LATs and from a far-flung rural DP rather than returning to the office to clock out...

What do you do with the undeliverable LATs? Also do you park the van at your home? Because that's a big no no unless it's parked on private land over night.

I very rarely, if ever, have undelivered parcels. And yes, I park the van on my own private land.

[Smoothbackground]

occasionally clocking out on the PDA and shooting off home when I do LATs and from a far-flung rural DP rather than returning to the office to clock out...

What do you do with the undeliverable LATs? Also do you park the van at your home? Because that's a big no no unless it's parked on private land over night.

Also, what’s being described is ghosting and there are big moves ahead to end this.

How is it ghosting? To my understanding, ghosting is when someone is paid OT even though they are still within their contractual hours. It is dishonesty on the part of employee and manager. There is no OT involved in the scenario I describe. The exact hours worked are always recorded. The only leeway in the scenario I describe is being allowed to clock out on my PDA 10 or so miles away from the office.

[Smoothbackground]

occasionally clocking out on the PDA and shooting off home when I do LATs and from a far-flung rural DP rather than returning to the office to clock out...

What do you do with the undeliverable LATs? Also do you park the van at your home? Because that's a big no no unless it's parked on private land over night.

I very rarely, if ever, have undelivered parcels. And yes, I park the van on my own private land.

How do you bring the van back to the DO in the morning if you are on LATs?

just maybe it’s because I start at 7.00 am and I drive it to work in the morning?

[Smoothbackground]

occasionally clocking out on the PDA and shooting off home when I do LATs and from a far-flung rural DP rather than returning to the office to clock out...

What do you do with the undeliverable LATs? Also do you park the van at your home? Because that's a big no no unless it's parked on private land over night.

I very rarely, if ever, have undelivered parcels. And yes, I park the van on my own private land.

How do you bring the van back to the DO in the morning if you are on LATs?

just maybe it’s because I start at 7.00 am and I drive it to work in the morning?

just maybe

oh really, first time I've heard of an LAT duty that starts at 7am. Is that a London thing?

You don’t work for the business anymore, CarryingMgMt, so I don’t know why I’m even bothering explaining. As you may know, LATs don’t come in until about 1.30 pm. And I’m not on a dedicated LAT duty, I just do them a few times a week.

(PS: No, London depots have dedicated LAT duties starting at midday, whereas at my DO — not in London — we absorb most LATs among the DPRs, with a few of us usually doing the remaining (usually rurals and the town centre.)