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A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

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Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

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milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

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Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:12
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
Of course it would start with the wealthy, and then they would work down to anybody with a company or private pension.
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

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milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:15
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:12
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
Of course it would start with the wealthy, and then they would work down to anybody with a company or private pension.
So what? It would be based on your wealth. How much dosh you have available to you. If you have a massive final salary pension, why the heck do you need the pittance state pension?
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

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Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:20
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:15
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:12
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
Of course it would start with the wealthy, and then they would work down to anybody with a company or private pension.
So what? It would be based on your wealth. How much dosh you have available to you. If you have a massive final salary pension, why the heck do you need the pittance state pension?
People have paid in for decades, why should the government renage on paying what you're due?
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

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milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:23
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:20
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:15
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:12
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
Of course it would start with the wealthy, and then they would work down to anybody with a company or private pension.
So what? It would be based on your wealth. How much dosh you have available to you. If you have a massive final salary pension, why the heck do you need the pittance state pension?
People have paid in for decades, why should the government renage on paying what you're due?
1. An awful lot of people have not ‘paid in for decades’.
2. Why should rich people receive a financial bung that they don’t need?
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

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Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:29
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:23
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:20
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:15
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:12
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
Of course it would start with the wealthy, and then they would work down to anybody with a company or private pension.
So what? It would be based on your wealth. How much dosh you have available to you. If you have a massive final salary pension, why the heck do you need the pittance state pension?
People have paid in for decades, why should the government renage on paying what you're due?
1. An awful lot of people have not ‘paid in for decades’.
2. Why should rich people receive a financial bung that they don’t need?
Correct, many people have paid nothing in at all and still receive a state pension.
What are the Government going to define as rich?
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Re: A Royal Mail postman has been caught writing 'racists' on Reform UK leaflets

Post by Barnacle »

milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:34
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:29
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:23
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:20
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:15
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:12
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
Of course it would start with the wealthy, and then they would work down to anybody with a company or private pension.
So what? It would be based on your wealth. How much dosh you have available to you. If you have a massive final salary pension, why the heck do you need the pittance state pension?
People have paid in for decades, why should the government renage on paying what you're due?
1. An awful lot of people have not ‘paid in for decades’.
2. Why should rich people receive a financial bung that they don’t need?
Correct, many people have paid nothing in at all and still receive a state pension.
What are the Government going to define as rich?
They’ll set an income level as they did when they capped child benefit. If your income is over a certain amount you don’t receive it. It’s straightforward.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Post by milly »

Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:42
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:34
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:29
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:23
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:20
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:15
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:12
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
Of course it would start with the wealthy, and then they would work down to anybody with a company or private pension.
So what? It would be based on your wealth. How much dosh you have available to you. If you have a massive final salary pension, why the heck do you need the pittance state pension?
People have paid in for decades, why should the government renage on paying what you're due?
1. An awful lot of people have not ‘paid in for decades’.
2. Why should rich people receive a financial bung that they don’t need?
Correct, many people have paid nothing in at all and still receive a state pension.
What are the Government going to define as rich?
They’ll set an income level as they did when they capped child benefit. If your income is over a certain amount you don’t receive it. It’s straightforward.
I suppose they could say if your company pension is higher than the state pension then you receive nothing.
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milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:47
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:42
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:34
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:29
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:23
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:20
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:15
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:12
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
Of course it would start with the wealthy, and then they would work down to anybody with a company or private pension.
So what? It would be based on your wealth. How much dosh you have available to you. If you have a massive final salary pension, why the heck do you need the pittance state pension?
People have paid in for decades, why should the government renage on paying what you're due?
1. An awful lot of people have not ‘paid in for decades’.
2. Why should rich people receive a financial bung that they don’t need?
Correct, many people have paid nothing in at all and still receive a state pension.
What are the Government going to define as rich?
They’ll set an income level as they did when they capped child benefit. If your income is over a certain amount you don’t receive it. It’s straightforward.
I suppose they could say if your company pension is higher than the state pension then you receive nothing.

If you are on a final salary company pension, why the heck would you need a state pension?

I agree with means testing because there is no reason why someone wealthy should receive a state pension.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Post by milly »

Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 22:15
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:47
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:42
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:34
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:29
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:23
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:20
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:15
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:12
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
Of course it would start with the wealthy, and then they would work down to anybody with a company or private pension.
So what? It would be based on your wealth. How much dosh you have available to you. If you have a massive final salary pension, why the heck do you need the pittance state pension?
People have paid in for decades, why should the government renage on paying what you're due?
1. An awful lot of people have not ‘paid in for decades’.
2. Why should rich people receive a financial bung that they don’t need?
Correct, many people have paid nothing in at all and still receive a state pension.
What are the Government going to define as rich?
They’ll set an income level as they did when they capped child benefit. If your income is over a certain amount you don’t receive it. It’s straightforward.
I suppose they could say if your company pension is higher than the state pension then you receive nothing.

If you are on a final salary company pension, why the heck would you need a state pension?

I agree with means testing because there is no reason why someone wealthy should receive a state pension.
A final salary pension is only good if you're on a decent wage.
Just because you have a final salary pension doesn't make you rich.
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I wonder if Barnacle is stating future LP policy in that if you receive a FS pension you don't need a state pension, or is just talking irrational nonsense for the sake of it?
Just think, all those RM employees being denied the state pension that they've paid in for. Should go down well.
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Post by Barnacle »

milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 22:26
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 22:15
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:47
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:42
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:34
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:29
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:23
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:20
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:15
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:12
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:35
Barnacle wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:23
milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 20:04
What do think of Labour looking at a means testing the State Pension, Lou?
As Peter Stringfellow used to say, it’s ridiculous for people as wealthy as he was to be receiving a pension and there was no way to return funds to the DWP.

Wealthy pensioners don’t need a pension.
You no doubt have a Royal Mail pension, why do you need a state pension as well?
You’re mistaking me with someone wealthy. If pensions were means tested, it would be the wealthy who would not receive a pension. Not the JAM.

In the same way as child benefit is now means tested - far as I am aware.
Of course it would start with the wealthy, and then they would work down to anybody with a company or private pension.
So what? It would be based on your wealth. How much dosh you have available to you. If you have a massive final salary pension, why the heck do you need the pittance state pension?
People have paid in for decades, why should the government renage on paying what you're due?
1. An awful lot of people have not ‘paid in for decades’.
2. Why should rich people receive a financial bung that they don’t need?
Correct, many people have paid nothing in at all and still receive a state pension.
What are the Government going to define as rich?
They’ll set an income level as they did when they capped child benefit. If your income is over a certain amount you don’t receive it. It’s straightforward.
I suppose they could say if your company pension is higher than the state pension then you receive nothing.

If you are on a final salary company pension, why the heck would you need a state pension?

I agree with means testing because there is no reason why someone wealthy should receive a state pension.
A final salary pension is only good if you're on a decent wage.
Just because you have a final salary pension doesn't make you rich.
You have to be earning over £40,000 pa for child benefit to be impacted, and over £60,000 pa for it to be withdrawn altogether, so there is no reason to imagine that the level of income you would need to reach before having your state pension withdrawn wouldn’t be equally generous.
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What makes you think that?
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milly wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 22:36
What makes you think that?
The answer to that is within the reply already given.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’