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New start times

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hans solo
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Re: New start times

Post by hans solo »

Same here
And it is over 7hrs per day 7hr 24min
If im finishig after 3 im going to be asking for full break in middle of day 20 mins early break no use you will have had breakfast already
And 20 min at the end no point
If everyone asked for break in middle of day they would change their agendas
citypostie
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Re: New start times

Post by citypostie »

LouBarlow wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 10:35
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 10:09
hans solo wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 09:15
LouBarlow wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 08:07
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 07:52
hans solo wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 07:23
Apparently our start times 8.12
7hrs 24 min every day
Meaning 15.36 finish every day
( less 20 min meal rel )
It's supposed to be 40mins total break times for that length of shift
We are allowed to finish 20 minutes early if we have half our break, so Hans might have meant that.
6.45 7.15 7.00 7.15 7.15 6.15. Start times
6.59 7.29 7.14 7.29 7.29 6.29 35 hr times
20/20 min split break usually about 8.45 and end of shift
P&l always late

22 miles from mail centre
30 mins when roads quiet
Less than a 7 hour shift is only 30mins total breaktime.

Are you physically staying on site and not just scanning out and going home 20mins early? In the current climate I don't think it's going to be long before the higher ups start questioning COMs, MCMs and shift managers (in any MC or DO) about any occurrences of people finishing before their official finish time
I can’t speak for others, but we just scan out twenty minutes early. It has been that way since scanning in and out started, so if it was causing issues for our managers, I’m sure it would have been stopped by now.
It doesn't cause an issue because it if factored into the siso times if that's the way do it in your office. It's the same in mine and hundreds of others, it it was sorted with the knowledge of the higher ups as space phoenix like to call them.
hans solo
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Re: New start times

Post by hans solo »

Ayr in scotland 5 pm finish time
claretandblue
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Re: New start times

Post by claretandblue »

44 minutes later for us, 759 Mon Tue, 744 the rest.
Neverwasadoor
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Re: New start times

Post by Neverwasadoor »

We are moving 1hr 27minutes. Want to thank all the hard work for saving us those 3 minutes 🤣
Philbag70
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Re: New start times

Post by Philbag70 »

Smoothbackground wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 10:28
Philbag70 wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 10:22
Smoothbackground wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 09:12
So has anyone been given their new start times today? Apparently something is going up on the noticeboard at our office today telling us what the new start time will be and when it will start. I’m on a day off today so won’t get to see it until tomorrow. Tempted to ask someone in work to send me a photo of it!
I'm off work A/L, and this morning I received a SD A4 envelope with all my new times and how to appeal.
My times have changed by 60 minutes which affects my personal life quite significantly. I will, of course, be appealing for my exemption
Hope you manage to get it sorted. I am sure there is still plenty of work that can be done in the morning prior to the lorry arriving.

We were told we would receive a letter by SD today, Monday, merely telling us if we were people affected, and then that there would be a communication placed on the noticeboard today, also Monday, telling those affected their new times. No letter as yet but still early in the day. I will update…
Thankyou. Hope it all works out for you too.
I've just completed my exemption form. Fingers crossed 🤞!
hans solo
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Re: New start times

Post by hans solo »

Just been informed we are now officially 4.30 finish ffs
But locally trying to tweak it
Neverwasadoor
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Re: New start times

Post by Neverwasadoor »

We are in Scotland as well. Need to know if wave 1 is moving later and the gap between waves 1 and 2.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: New start times

Post by SpacePhoenix »

citypostie wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 11:01
LouBarlow wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 10:35
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 10:09
hans solo wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 09:15
LouBarlow wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 08:07
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 07:52
hans solo wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 07:23
Apparently our start times 8.12
7hrs 24 min every day
Meaning 15.36 finish every day
( less 20 min meal rel )
It's supposed to be 40mins total break times for that length of shift
We are allowed to finish 20 minutes early if we have half our break, so Hans might have meant that.
6.45 7.15 7.00 7.15 7.15 6.15. Start times
6.59 7.29 7.14 7.29 7.29 6.29 35 hr times
20/20 min split break usually about 8.45 and end of shift
P&l always late

22 miles from mail centre
30 mins when roads quiet
Less than a 7 hour shift is only 30mins total breaktime.

Are you physically staying on site and not just scanning out and going home 20mins early? In the current climate I don't think it's going to be long before the higher ups start questioning COMs, MCMs and shift managers (in any MC or DO) about any occurrences of people finishing before their official finish time
I can’t speak for others, but we just scan out twenty minutes early. It has been that way since scanning in and out started, so if it was causing issues for our managers, I’m sure it would have been stopped by now.
It doesn't cause an issue because it if factored into the siso times if that's the way do it in your office. It's the same in mine and hundreds of others, it it was sorted with the knowledge of the higher ups as space phoenix like to call them.
When your DO is next told to make savings, if you add up all them 20mins or however much time you're making every day, they're going to be told that they're having at least them hours taken out your DO.
citypostie
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Re: New start times

Post by citypostie »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 12:23
citypostie wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 11:01
LouBarlow wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 10:35
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 10:09
hans solo wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 09:15
LouBarlow wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 08:07
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 07:52
hans solo wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 07:23
Apparently our start times 8.12
7hrs 24 min every day
Meaning 15.36 finish every day
( less 20 min meal rel )
It's supposed to be 40mins total break times for that length of shift
We are allowed to finish 20 minutes early if we have half our break, so Hans might have meant that.
6.45 7.15 7.00 7.15 7.15 6.15. Start times
6.59 7.29 7.14 7.29 7.29 6.29 35 hr times
20/20 min split break usually about 8.45 and end of shift
P&l always late

22 miles from mail centre
30 mins when roads quiet
Less than a 7 hour shift is only 30mins total breaktime.

Are you physically staying on site and not just scanning out and going home 20mins early? In the current climate I don't think it's going to be long before the higher ups start questioning COMs, MCMs and shift managers (in any MC or DO) about any occurrences of people finishing before their official finish time
I can’t speak for others, but we just scan out twenty minutes early. It has been that way since scanning in and out started, so if it was causing issues for our managers, I’m sure it would have been stopped by now.
It doesn't cause an issue because it if factored into the siso times if that's the way do it in your office. It's the same in mine and hundreds of others, it it was sorted with the knowledge of the higher ups as space phoenix like to call them.
When your DO is next told to make savings, if you add up all them 20mins or however much time you're making every day, they're going to be told that they're having at least them hours taken out your DO.
Not they are not, you don't know what you're talking about! Nobody is making 20 minutes, it's half their allowed break which they are allowed to take at the end of the duty, makes no difference that they are signing out 20 minutes before their time because the siso has been set with the finish time 20 minutes earlier to allow for the part of meal relief. So people are clocking off at the correct time not 20 minutes early. My finish time is 14.55 but the siso is set for a clock out time of 14.35 it's that simple
SpacePhoenix
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Re: New start times

Post by SpacePhoenix »

citypostie wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 13:11
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 12:23
citypostie wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 11:01
LouBarlow wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 10:35
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 10:09
hans solo wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 09:15
LouBarlow wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 08:07
SpacePhoenix wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 07:52
hans solo wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 07:23
Apparently our start times 8.12
7hrs 24 min every day
Meaning 15.36 finish every day
( less 20 min meal rel )
It's supposed to be 40mins total break times for that length of shift
We are allowed to finish 20 minutes early if we have half our break, so Hans might have meant that.
6.45 7.15 7.00 7.15 7.15 6.15. Start times
6.59 7.29 7.14 7.29 7.29 6.29 35 hr times
20/20 min split break usually about 8.45 and end of shift
P&l always late

22 miles from mail centre
30 mins when roads quiet
Less than a 7 hour shift is only 30mins total breaktime.

Are you physically staying on site and not just scanning out and going home 20mins early? In the current climate I don't think it's going to be long before the higher ups start questioning COMs, MCMs and shift managers (in any MC or DO) about any occurrences of people finishing before their official finish time
I can’t speak for others, but we just scan out twenty minutes early. It has been that way since scanning in and out started, so if it was causing issues for our managers, I’m sure it would have been stopped by now.
It doesn't cause an issue because it if factored into the siso times if that's the way do it in your office. It's the same in mine and hundreds of others, it it was sorted with the knowledge of the higher ups as space phoenix like to call them.
When your DO is next told to make savings, if you add up all them 20mins or however much time you're making every day, they're going to be told that they're having at least them hours taken out your DO.
Not they are not, you don't know what you're talking about! Nobody is making 20 minutes, it's half their allowed break which they are allowed to take at the end of the duty, makes no difference that they are signing out 20 minutes before their time because the siso has been set with the finish time 20 minutes earlier to allow for the part of meal relief. So people are clocking off at the correct time not 20 minutes early. My finish time is 14.55 but the siso is set for a clock out time of 14.35 it's that simple
There's no such thing as a "clock out time" with the SISO. It just sends a record of any sign in or sign out scans off to wherever they process the data. If you scan out at 14:35 the system will show you as finishing at 14:35. It doesn't record any reason for an early scan out.
jbo5066
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Re: New start times

Post by jbo5066 »

In a bit of a welcome shock, we were all told this morning our start/finish times are staying as they are now 😮
theotherone
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Re: New start times

Post by theotherone »

I'm sure its fairly obvious but these times are the base number so when seasonal variation kicks in obviously you have to add another 24 mins.
SMS1969
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Re: New start times

Post by SMS1969 »

15 minutes for us :dance

We are about 5 miles from the Mail centre so that’s helped. I’d be annoyed if I was working in Scotland. :mad
jbo5066
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Re: New start times

Post by jbo5066 »

SMS1969 wrote:
19 Feb 2024, 13:36
15 minutes for us :dance

We are about 5 miles from the Mail centre so that’s helped. I’d be annoyed if I was working in Scotland. :mad
Yeah, I don't get how they work it out - we are an hour away yet our times, barring seasonal variation, aren't changing ...