Is losing a parcel a sackable offence ?

[kazardaimenu]

So many ways a parcel could go missing with two posties using 3 sets of back van doors and tens of bags each. Eventually something will fly off or fall out of an overladen bag your partner has packed for you…

[nightcrawler]

I lost a recorded delivery letter once. Just got a warning as I have a pretty clean record.

[logdog]

Lost a recorded a letter once and admitted to the manager i had done it, id had carded it and i think it blew out of my bag it was a really windy day, nothing ever came of it. Also had a tracked fall out of the van onto the road, told the manager i couldnt find it he said oh well it will turn up, found it the next day on the side of road. They cant trace recorded theres not enough steps the only ones you could get into trouble for is tracked and specials because of the scan in the morning on your pda. In my last 2 years i dont think i ever scanned a recorded, would just hand them to the customer or post them through never had any comeback

[ArthurPewty]

Are you referring to 'Signed For' by recorded?
If yes I'd be really p****d off if I'd paid for that service and you couldn't be bothered to scan it. Has happened to stuff I've sent before. That could be an old lady sending her grandkids some birthday money and fretting over wether they got it or not. Plus if there was a complaint you would get bollocked about it (hopefully)

[Basildon Bond]

Are you referring to 'Signed For' by recorded?
If yes I'd be really p****d off if I'd paid for that service and you couldn't be bothered to scan it. Has happened to stuff I've sent before. That could be an old lady sending her grandkids some birthday money and fretting over wether they got it or not. Plus if there was a complaint you would get bollocked about it (hopefully)

That "old lady" probably would have wanted to send the birthday card with money in it as Tracked (24 or 48). However, being an older lady she would probably be queuing in her local Post Office and they aren't allowed to sell Tracked. Hence her options are recorded/Signed For or registered/Special Delivery.

If I have a postable item (like a birthday card) in my hand and it has a bright orange sticker on it and I knock but there is no answer...what should I do? By the book I should card it. However, if I'm on the right street and at the correct house should I just scan it and slip it through the letterbox and put "DWS" so they have it? I would kind of think the old lady would want her grandkids to get the card when they get home that day and not force their mum or dad to dash down to the DO the next morning for the couple of hours it is open to collect the card. With the short hours a DO is open to the public they may have to wait until the next Saturday and then the birthday has long gone.

[logdog]

Are you referring to 'Signed For' by recorded?
If yes I'd be really p****d off if I'd paid for that service and you couldn't be bothered to scan it. Has happened to stuff I've sent before. That could be an old lady sending her grandkids some birthday money and fretting over wether they got it or not. Plus if there was a complaint you would get bollocked about it (hopefully)

yes signed for, was a rural route, when i started it they would complain when i left 739's so it just go to the stage of signing and posting through, nobody wanted to drive 20minutes to pick up a letter

[LouBarlow]

We have people being conduct coded now for signing for recorded deliveries. It isn’t worth risking your job, even for people you know.

[Basildon Bond]

We have people being conduct coded now for signing for recorded deliveries. It isn’t worth risking your job, even for people you know.

New or old contract? I think it would be interesting to see if there is a difference on how you are handled based on your age/health/speed/willingness to do overtime/ never cuts off/ contract type/ overall length of service/ etc.

[SMS1969]

We have people being conduct coded now for signing for recorded deliveries. It isn’t worth risking your job, even for people you know.

New or old contract? I think it would be interesting to see if there is a difference on how you are handled based on your age/health/speed/willingness to do overtime/ never cuts off/ contract type/ overall length of service/ etc.

Exactly, it’s all about how flexible you are in your role and what you can do for management.You can get away with certain things if you stay on the right side of them.

[norris9]

If you're on an old contract; the boss doesn't like you; you never work overtime; you always cut off; you love arguing with anyone about your massive workload.....they may want to paint a target on your back.

I heard in a local office the big bosses have more time now after Christmas (sorry PEAK!) and are looking at performance and complaints and are looking to sack people. I heard a manager was asked to sack a postie who scanned a box too earlier twice in a row (or two recent events or something). Sacked for scanning a postbox early? Do the bosses (the big bosses - area and higher) really want people's blood for minor things?

Watch your backs people!

That's me. On an old contract, don't do overtime because it's not worth the money, and not worth going home absolutely knackered as my duty would take me 30mins to an hour over time.

Haven't really known of anyone getting sacked recently.... our office struggles to get staff, and most who do join don't stay for longer than 6 months.

Our managers actually said they want current staff to stay, they don't want to have to keep replacing staff, having to do interviews, having to pay out for the van driving test, training staff to do the job, and having posties with far less knowledge of sorting and knowledge of rounds for most of them to leave within a year.

If people on 35 hour contracts with decent terms don't stay, then how are they going to keep people on 40 hour contracts on less pay, with no paid break.... I feel sorry for those people.... they get put onto the ridiculously huge rounds and have to walk ridiculous distances.

[SMS1969]

And then you hear Ward once again talking about expanding our role, when we haven’t got time to do our rounds as it is.

[LouBarlow]

We have people being conduct coded now for signing for recorded deliveries. It isn’t worth risking your job, even for people you know.

New or old contract? I think it would be interesting to see if there is a difference on how you are handled based on your age/health/speed/willingness to do overtime/ never cuts off/ contract type/ overall length of service/ etc.

One of those being conducted has done over 20 years. Why risk it?

[norris9]

It's funny how they actually want us to take shortcuts to get our duties done, but then reprimand us for taking those shortcuts....

They will claim you are slow and then reference someone who is faster that you know takes all the shortcuts.

We love Jimmy he is so fast...... yeah cos he doorsteps and signs for things..... yeah, but we love Jimmy.

[Mickeybrowneyes]

Is losing a parcel a sackable offence?

Very unlikely.
Human error occurs all the time, if it's a one off then they should coach you, then conduct if it keeps happening before it gets to the point of potential dismissal.
If you are losing many a month then a case will build but I shouldn't worry about it too much if it's a one off.
All make mistakes.

[Splappy_McSplap]

It's funny how they actually want us to take shortcuts to get our duties done, but then reprimand us for taking those shortcuts....

They will claim you are slow and then reference someone who is faster that you know takes all the shortcuts.

We love Jimmy he is so fast...... yeah cos he doorsteps and signs for things..... yeah, but we love Jimmy.

These idiots are ruining the job for the rest of us. Go at a reasonable pace, do the job properly, and don't let managers bully you. Also don't grass up your colleagues.