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DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
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sparkinsonic
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DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
So my delivery supplement got changed after 37 years working in the same delivery office...£28 down to £11,so i lost £17 a week.I am on late collections but always received delivery supplement ....but i do delivery work as well.Only me in our office got changed.There are around 100 staff,10 of which are collection staff .......I have spoken to HR,My manager,My area rep, 3 weeks nothing sorted so will speak again with area rep......This happen to anyone else ? any advice
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guardianangel
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
A sign of things to come sadly ,the signing of the deal has given away all our rights ,with the union left flapping in the dark wondering where did it all go wrong.
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Valentina@1
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
It’s disgusting what’s happening,ward & furey completely sold us out.”we wont stand here and let Royal Mail turn us into just another parcel company”(wards own words)guardianangel wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 08:39A sign of things to come sadly ,the signing of the deal has given away all our rights ,with the union left flapping in the dark wondering where did it all go wrong.
5 months later…place is being run to ground
Where does this end up?
Sad times 🥲
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ted_e_bear
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
This cropped up recently, I can understand why they might want to stop paying it if it's simply because you're based in a do but solely on collections but surely if you do delivery then you should get it, is it because you do delivery on overtime as opposed to part of your duty ? That could explain it although I think it's a bit bloody unfair.
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mwalker88
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?
I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.
How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?
Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.
How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?
Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
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Strong bull
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
sparkinsonic wrote: ↑24 Nov 2023, 19:16So my delivery supplement got changed after 37 years working in the same delivery office...£28 down to £11,so i lost £17 a week.I am on late collections but always received delivery supplement ....but i do delivery work as well.Only me in our office got changed.There are around 100 staff,10 of which are collection staff .......I have spoken to HR,My manager,My area rep, 3 weeks nothing sorted so will speak again with area rep......This happen to anyone else ? any advice
Happened to us also. Wasn't told just happened to notice it as pay was short and asked manager. He allegedly knew nothing about it untill someone else mentioned it. He said the union had agreed to it. Waste of time asking our rep.
I usually help out doing a bit of ot delivering this this time of year. I won't be this year. Delivery manager has been begging me already but quite frankly can do one.
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postslippete
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
Does it state anywhere in the agreement that the Union has agreed to a reduction in the delivery supplement? I thought the deal stated that every single allowance remains?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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yellowbelly
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
You said it yourself - doubt it was a single issue vote, it was a majority vote as part of a larger agreement wasn't it andmwalker88 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 18:04Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?
I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.
How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?
Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
the majority saw the larger agreement worth sacrificing D2D payments for? Before my time.
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enskied
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
Shushmwalker88 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 18:04Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?
I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.
How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?
Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
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yellowbelly
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
It hasn't, but perhaps what has happened to the OP is that they might have been getting delivery supplement for the additional time they do collectionspostslippete wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 19:03Does it state anywhere in the agreement that the Union has agreed to a reduction in the delivery supplement? I thought the deal stated that every single allowance remains?
but now that part has sneakily been stopped and now they're just getting delivery supplement for the amount of hours they're doing 'delivery'. Just surmising though, could be wrong.
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mwalker88
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
Any idea what the larger agreement was?yellowbelly wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 19:04You said it yourself - doubt it was a single issue vote, it was a majority vote as part of a larger agreement wasn't it andmwalker88 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 18:04Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?
I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.
How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?
Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
the majority saw the larger agreement worth sacrificing D2D payments for? Before my time.
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SpacePhoenix
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
At some point down the line RM will be wanting to get rid of all supplements and allowances. It won't matter if you're in a DO or MC, they'll want the lot goneenskied wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 19:08Shushmwalker88 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 18:04Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?
I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.
How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?
Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?we're not allowed to talk about this... MC workers get twitchy.
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guardianangel
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
Think it might be time to offer all us old ones on the old contracts decent redundancy terms,it could now solve all their problems and cut costs so the company can move forward with their plan ,its got to the point now most over 50 long timers would walk if it was worth their while,can they afford to wait another 10 years.SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 19:47At some point down the line RM will be wanting to get rid of all supplements and allowances. It won't matter if you're in a DO or MC, they'll want the lot goneenskied wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 19:08Shushmwalker88 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 18:04Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?
I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.
How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?
Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?we're not allowed to talk about this... MC workers get twitchy.
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Shirtbuttons
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
This was a good deal, you won’t get better I was told. Glad I didn’t vote for it.
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yellowbelly
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT
BT 2010mwalker88 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 19:24Any idea what the larger agreement was?yellowbelly wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 19:04You said it yourself - doubt it was a single issue vote, it was a majority vote as part of a larger agreement wasn't it andmwalker88 wrote: ↑27 Nov 2023, 18:04Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?
I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.
How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?
Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
the majority saw the larger agreement worth sacrificing D2D payments for? Before my time.