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DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT

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sparkinsonic
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DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT

Post by sparkinsonic »

So my delivery supplement got changed after 37 years working in the same delivery office...£28 down to £11,so i lost £17 a week.I am on late collections but always received delivery supplement ....but i do delivery work as well.Only me in our office got changed.There are around 100 staff,10 of which are collection staff .......I have spoken to HR,My manager,My area rep, 3 weeks nothing sorted so will speak again with area rep......This happen to anyone else ? any advice
guardianangel
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Post by guardianangel »

A sign of things to come sadly ,the signing of the deal has given away all our rights ,with the union left flapping in the dark wondering where did it all go wrong.
Valentina@1
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Post by Valentina@1 »

guardianangel wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 08:39
A sign of things to come sadly ,the signing of the deal has given away all our rights ,with the union left flapping in the dark wondering where did it all go wrong.
It’s disgusting what’s happening,ward & furey completely sold us out.”we wont stand here and let Royal Mail turn us into just another parcel company”(wards own words)
5 months later…place is being run to ground😡😡😡
Where does this end up?

Sad times 🥲
ted_e_bear
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Post by ted_e_bear »

This cropped up recently, I can understand why they might want to stop paying it if it's simply because you're based in a do but solely on collections but surely if you do delivery then you should get it, is it because you do delivery on overtime as opposed to part of your duty ? That could explain it although I think it's a bit bloody unfair.
mwalker88
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT

Post by mwalker88 »

Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?

I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.

How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?

Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
Strong bull
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT

Post by Strong bull »

sparkinsonic wrote:
24 Nov 2023, 19:16
So my delivery supplement got changed after 37 years working in the same delivery office...£28 down to £11,so i lost £17 a week.I am on late collections but always received delivery supplement ....but i do delivery work as well.Only me in our office got changed.There are around 100 staff,10 of which are collection staff .......I have spoken to HR,My manager,My area rep, 3 weeks nothing sorted so will speak again with area rep......This happen to anyone else ? any advice

Happened to us also. Wasn't told just happened to notice it as pay was short and asked manager. He allegedly knew nothing about it untill someone else mentioned it. He said the union had agreed to it. Waste of time asking our rep.

I usually help out doing a bit of ot delivering this this time of year. I won't be this year. Delivery manager has been begging me already but quite frankly can do one.
postslippete
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Post by postslippete »

Does it state anywhere in the agreement that the Union has agreed to a reduction in the delivery supplement? I thought the deal stated that every single allowance remains?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
yellowbelly
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Post by yellowbelly »

mwalker88 wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 18:04
Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?

I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.

How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?

Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
You said it yourself - doubt it was a single issue vote, it was a majority vote as part of a larger agreement wasn't it and
the majority saw the larger agreement worth sacrificing D2D payments for? Before my time.
enskied
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Post by enskied »

mwalker88 wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 18:04
Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?

I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.

How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?

Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
Shush 🤫 we're not allowed to talk about this... MC workers get twitchy.
yellowbelly
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Post by yellowbelly »

postslippete wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 19:03
Does it state anywhere in the agreement that the Union has agreed to a reduction in the delivery supplement? I thought the deal stated that every single allowance remains?
It hasn't, but perhaps what has happened to the OP is that they might have been getting delivery supplement for the additional time they do collections
but now that part has sneakily been stopped and now they're just getting delivery supplement for the amount of hours they're doing 'delivery'. Just surmising though, could be wrong.
mwalker88
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT

Post by mwalker88 »

yellowbelly wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 19:04
mwalker88 wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 18:04
Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?

I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.

How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?

Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
You said it yourself - doubt it was a single issue vote, it was a majority vote as part of a larger agreement wasn't it and
the majority saw the larger agreement worth sacrificing D2D payments for? Before my time.
Any idea what the larger agreement was?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT

Post by SpacePhoenix »

enskied wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 19:08
mwalker88 wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 18:04
Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?

I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.

How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?

Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
Shush 🤫 we're not allowed to talk about this... MC workers get twitchy.
At some point down the line RM will be wanting to get rid of all supplements and allowances. It won't matter if you're in a DO or MC, they'll want the lot gone
guardianangel
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Re: DELIVERY SUPPLEMENT CHANGED TO COLLECION SUPPLEMENT

Post by guardianangel »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 19:47
enskied wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 19:08
mwalker88 wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 18:04
Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?

I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.

How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?

Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
Shush 🤫 we're not allowed to talk about this... MC workers get twitchy.
At some point down the line RM will be wanting to get rid of all supplements and allowances. It won't matter if you're in a DO or MC, they'll want the lot gone
Think it might be time to offer all us old ones on the old contracts decent redundancy terms,it could now solve all their problems and cut costs so the company can move forward with their plan ,its got to the point now most over 50 long timers would walk if it was worth their while,can they afford to wait another 10 years.
Shirtbuttons
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Post by Shirtbuttons »

This was a good deal, you won’t get better I was told. Glad I didn’t vote for it.
yellowbelly
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Post by yellowbelly »

mwalker88 wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 19:24
yellowbelly wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 19:04
mwalker88 wrote:
27 Nov 2023, 18:04
Hijacking this thread. Can anyone explain who voted in the change from D2D payments to the supplements you all now receive?

I remember when it changed years ago because of a majority vote.

How could it have possibly been a majority vote to lose D2D payments considering the staff numbers across different sectors within the business?

Is it because certain parts of the country don't have to deliver leaflets?
You said it yourself - doubt it was a single issue vote, it was a majority vote as part of a larger agreement wasn't it and
the majority saw the larger agreement worth sacrificing D2D payments for? Before my time.
Any idea what the larger agreement was?
BT 2010