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37 HOURS

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worktotime
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Re: 37 HOURS

Post by worktotime »

scoobydo79 wrote:
12 Nov 2023, 15:40
worktotime wrote:
12 Nov 2023, 15:31
this farce ends on SUNDAY 17TH DEC , so come monday the 18th i will be back to my normal start time and 37 hour week :thumbup , oh and roll on summer 35 hours to get my time back regardless what doesnt get delivered that will go back ,remember they OWE you 30 HOURS .
I’m thinking we will not be getting any time back from RM. Basically we have just been working unpaid overtime for them.
nahhh dont think so as i will be getting my hours what they owe me back , even thought the cw who ? have gone silent regarding all the issues what are going on .
Clappedoutpostie
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Re: 37 HOURS

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

The problem is they won’t scrap this as it’s not working, they will try and push further for even more flexibility as it’s not working.
mwalker88
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Re: 37 HOURS

Post by mwalker88 »

Clappedoutpostie wrote:
12 Nov 2023, 17:11
The problem is they won’t scrap this as it’s not working, they will try and push further for even more flexibility as it’s not working.
Pay bonuses to anyone above OPG grade, whether they are in management positions or not... Profit! :dance
worktotime
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Re: 37 HOURS

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1560loopsayear wrote:
12 Nov 2023, 16:39
It's unworkable... there are busy peaks in so called quieter periods... for example the week following any bank holiday is busy esp. The Easter week yet seasonal variation will be reduced at this time. There's also other religious events in the calendar at other times of the year which increase the volumes that go through the network.
it doesnt matter just work your hours and its they job to worry about it :thumbup
DGH
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Re: 37 HOURS

Post by DGH »

Clappedoutpostie wrote:
12 Nov 2023, 17:11
The problem is they won’t scrap this as it’s not working, they will try and push further for even more flexibility as it’s not working.
That's probably true, sadly.

They will 'review' it, conclude that it needs refining, and come up with something that makes our working lives worse.
Mr Rush
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Re: 37 HOURS

Post by Mr Rush »

Clappedoutpostie wrote:
12 Nov 2023, 17:11
The problem is they won’t scrap this as it’s not working, they will try and push further for even more flexibility as it’s not working.
The purpose of Seasonal Variation, no matter how unsuccessful in its initial form, was to get their foot in the door to the acceptability of altering hours. It also helps that SV is not solving the problems it was supposed to solve because that just creates a rationale for going even further - bigger and more frequent variations, until it's basically Zero Hours.
The machine stops.
postslippete
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Re: 37 HOURS

Post by postslippete »

Ren Hoëk wrote:
12 Nov 2023, 10:11
"Seasonal variation would be applied in the Delivery operation over 3 periods during the full-year cycle, as outlined below: -
Week 39 to Week 8 at 37 hours (Mid Period - approximately half the year)
Week 9 to Week 23 at 35 hours (summer period – lower workload)
Week 24 to Week 38 at 39 hours (autumn period – higher than average workload over our peak season)"

Week 1 is first week of the financial year I think.

Though this has gifted them sweet FA in my opinion so I can see them binning it and paying us off with the money set aside for the totally unachievable Christmas bonus/targets.

That's a very interesting observation....

But working 2 free hours per week over 15 weeks = 30 hours and that would equate to around £400


There seems to be many issues around RM's Quality of Service Bonus Incentive Scheme. The CWU have concerns regarding it and if the business is prepared to give us a bonus for hitting these targets now, what do we get for hitting these targets in any given period next year? If some offices that haven't had revisions are getting some of the bonus, how is that fair to the offices that have been completely screwed by unachievable revisions? There will be some offices that may get diddly squat through no fault of their own workers. That doesn't seem fair to me.

So could the seasonal variations thing be scrapped (its not really made a massive difference) and we get given this "bonus" money but still end up having to work 37 hours during the summer period when we are supposed to be "owed" the hours back??

I really wouldn't put anything past this company
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
plymouth3
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Re: 37 HOURS

Post by plymouth3 »

My biggest complaint about these extra two hours worked is that it doesn’t help us posties in the busy winter period

Ie we all work extra two hours so that we can get out earlier to give us a chance of completing the walk in busier periods.
But all our managers have done it’s cut the early staff and used these earlier starts to offset this and save money. So ultimately we get out at the normal time and can’t complete on a busy day.

Just cost savings exercise
luddite
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Re: 37 HOURS

Post by luddite »

We aren't doing SV in any form, we are on standard hours and will be next summer, fine by us.
COM announces the start of the bonus scheme and he expects us to work over by 30mins a day to clear office and therefore achieve the bonus! :wave
WHAT!!!
Its part of the SV agreement apparently.
Oh how we laughed!😬
Nope! Not gonna happen! Lost the dressing room and lost the plot.🙃
pieoftheday
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Re: 37 HOURS

Post by pieoftheday »

plymouth3 wrote:
12 Nov 2023, 23:58
My biggest complaint about these extra two hours worked is that it doesn’t help us posties in the busy winter period

Ie we all work extra two hours so that we can get out earlier to give us a chance of completing the walk in busier periods.
But all our managers have done it’s cut the early staff and used these earlier starts to offset this and save money. So ultimately we get out at the normal time and can’t complete on a busy day.

Just cost savings exercise
At our DO early OT has been increased but there so much stuff we don't get out any earlier 😕 and so as not to fail we leave mail that we don't think we'll deliver in shift time under the fitting,not on top as that's a failure :crazy:
richj2009
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Re: 37 HOURS

Post by richj2009 »

If this amount of work everyday generates no profit then what is the point. Just shut it down and let us move on without regret. This onslaught is unsustainable.