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Re: Door to Door Payment

Post by steve1873 »

KevKev wrote:
10 Sep 2023, 20:50
Got ya. I guess the old staff still call it D2D.

My point is, staff get paid extra for delivering leaflets. I'm wondering if this has stopped for new staff?
Nobody gets paid for delivering leaflets. You receive a delivery supplement for working in a delivery office.

New entrants are not paid this supplement.
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Re: Door to Door Payment

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Yeah new entrants get paid 20percent less and get to work Sundays plus we give them all the longer loops to do it’s great.
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Re: Door to Door Payment

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denowashere wrote:
12 Sep 2023, 08:05
Don't forget all of this was down to another great wage deal sellout by the union.
Yes, where the MC workers got the Chan for an extra few pound at the expense of their delivery colleges. And how they jumped on it.

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Re: Door to Door Payment

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enskied wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:19
denowashere wrote:
12 Sep 2023, 08:05
Don't forget all of this was down to another great wage deal sellout by the union.
Yes, where the MC workers got the Chan for an extra few pound at the expense of their delivery colleges. And how they jumped on it.

Solidarity Brothers.!
Delivery staff outnumber MC & RDC staff combined by at least 2:1 probably more likely 3:1 with some shifts being getting towards being between 1/3 and 1/4 made up with agency/casuals. It was voted in by deliveries, there's not enough of us in MCs and RDCs to have made any difference.

It's a shame that we couldn't get a breakdown at the time of the % of members in deliveries, MCs and RDCs
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Re: Door to Door Payment

Post by mwalker88 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 21:43
enskied wrote:
16 Sep 2023, 18:19
denowashere wrote:
12 Sep 2023, 08:05
Don't forget all of this was down to another great wage deal sellout by the union.
Yes, where the MC workers got the Chan for an extra few pound at the expense of their delivery colleges. And how they jumped on it.

Solidarity Brothers.!
Delivery staff outnumber MC & RDC staff combined by at least 2:1 probably more likely 3:1 with some shifts being getting towards being between 1/3 and 1/4 made up with agency/casuals. It was voted in by deliveries, there's not enough of us in MCs and RDCs to have made any difference.

It's a shame that we couldn't get a breakdown at the time of the % of members in deliveries, MCs and RDCs
You do realise there was a large percentage of Delivery posties who never had to deliver D2D when this was voted for years ago right?
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Re: Door to Door Payment

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Doesn't matter how much older Royal Mail staff try to dissect it and its name. Its a DTD payment, except the older mail centre staff get paid the same as the older delivery staff for pushing it around in yorks instead of delivering it, while the new starters don't get paid for delivering it. Delivery office members used to get it paid per item and mail centre members got nothing as far as I'm aware, but since 2010 its a set amount per week no matter if there are 1 or 7 DTD. We do get paid it when there are non though and when on holiday which didn't use to be the case. That was how it was sold to us and that's how it is.
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Re: Door to Door Payment

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RTP wrote:
19 Sep 2023, 22:28
Doesn't matter how much older Royal Mail staff try to dissect it and its name. Its a DTD payment, except the older mail centre staff get paid the same as the older delivery staff for pushing it around in yorks instead of delivering it, while the new starters don't get paid for delivering it. Delivery office members used to get it paid per item and mail centre members got nothing as far as I'm aware, but since 2010 its a set amount per week no matter if there are 1 or 7 DTD. We do get paid it when there are non though and when on holiday which didn't use to be the case. That was how it was sold to us and that's how it is.
Mail centre staff don't get paid the delivery supplement.
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Re: Door to Door Payment

Post by Woody Guthrie »

RTP wrote:
19 Sep 2023, 22:28
Doesn't matter how much older Royal Mail staff try to dissect it and its name. Its a DTD payment, except the older mail centre staff get paid the same as the older delivery staff for pushing it around in yorks instead of delivering it, while the new starters don't get paid for delivering it. Delivery office members used to get it paid per item and mail centre members got nothing as far as I'm aware, but since 2010 its a set amount per week no matter if there are 1 or 7 DTD. We do get paid it when there are non though and when on holiday which didn't use to be the case. That was how it was sold to us and that's how it is.
There's so much wrong with that it's difficult to know where to start.
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Re: Door to Door Payment

Post by SpacePhoenix »

P13 wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 01:19
RTP wrote:
19 Sep 2023, 22:28
Doesn't matter how much older Royal Mail staff try to dissect it and its name. Its a DTD payment, except the older mail centre staff get paid the same as the older delivery staff for pushing it around in yorks instead of delivering it, while the new starters don't get paid for delivering it. Delivery office members used to get it paid per item and mail centre members got nothing as far as I'm aware, but since 2010 its a set amount per week no matter if there are 1 or 7 DTD. We do get paid it when there are non though and when on holiday which didn't use to be the case. That was how it was sold to us and that's how it is.
Mail centre staff don't get paid the delivery supplement.
Each function has got their own supplement, don't know if distribution in MCs get the processing one or if they have a separate one.

The delivery supplement is not a D2D payment, it's a functional supplement payment
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Re: Door to Door Payment

Post by clashcityrocker »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 07:24

The delivery supplement is not a D2D payment, it's a functional supplement payment
I have always thought it was an early shift allowance.
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Re: Door to Door Payment

Post by Woody Guthrie »

clashcityrocker wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 15:09
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 07:24

The delivery supplement is not a D2D payment, it's a functional supplement payment
I have always thought it was an early shift allowance.
Quality trolling. :chuckle

The original delivery supplement was calculated by adding the overall annual cost of the Early Shift Allowance to the overall annual cost of D2D payments and dividing this by the number of members on delivery.

This one off accounting equation was the only link to both payments.

Both payments were completely removed at the same time.

As ESA was pensionable those members who received it before it was abolished had an equivalent amount of the delivery supplement paid separately and made pensionable.

The delivery supplement has nothing to do with either the ESA or D2D.
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Re: Door to Door Payment

Post by P13 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 07:24
P13 wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 01:19
RTP wrote:
19 Sep 2023, 22:28
Doesn't matter how much older Royal Mail staff try to dissect it and its name. Its a DTD payment, except the older mail centre staff get paid the same as the older delivery staff for pushing it around in yorks instead of delivering it, while the new starters don't get paid for delivering it. Delivery office members used to get it paid per item and mail centre members got nothing as far as I'm aware, but since 2010 its a set amount per week no matter if there are 1 or 7 DTD. We do get paid it when there are non though and when on holiday which didn't use to be the case. That was how it was sold to us and that's how it is.
Mail centre staff don't get paid the delivery supplement.
Each function has got their own supplement, don't know if distribution in MCs get the processing one or if they have a separate one.

The delivery supplement is not a D2D payment, it's a functional supplement payment
I am more than aware it is a functional supplement and not a D2D payment, hence my reply to RTP
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Re: Door to Door Payment

Post by P13 »

clashcityrocker wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 15:09
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 07:24

The delivery supplement is not a D2D payment, it's a functional supplement payment
I have always thought it was an early shift allowance.
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Re: Door to Door Payment

Post by RTP »

P13 wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 15:25
SpacePhoenix wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 07:24
P13 wrote:
20 Sep 2023, 01:19
RTP wrote:
19 Sep 2023, 22:28
Doesn't matter how much older Royal Mail staff try to dissect it and its name. Its a DTD payment, except the older mail centre staff get paid the same as the older delivery staff for pushing it around in yorks instead of delivering it, while the new starters don't get paid for delivering it. Delivery office members used to get it paid per item and mail centre members got nothing as far as I'm aware, but since 2010 its a set amount per week no matter if there are 1 or 7 DTD. We do get paid it when there are non though and when on holiday which didn't use to be the case. That was how it was sold to us and that's how it is.
Mail centre staff don't get paid the delivery supplement.
Each function has got their own supplement, don't know if distribution in MCs get the processing one or if they have a separate one.

The delivery supplement is not a D2D payment, it's a functional supplement payment
I am more than aware it is a functional supplement and not a D2D payment, hence my reply to RTP
So its a dressed up dtd payment then is it not?