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Valentina@1
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Re: season hours

Post by Valentina@1 »

The 30 min flex crap gonna be abused 💯
thefox
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Re: season hours

Post by thefox »

Valentina@1 wrote:
01 Aug 2023, 05:42
The 30 min flex crap gonna be abused 💯
Whats happening with that was it not meant to be decided by end of july whether compulsory or voluntary although i think we all know how its gonna go.
thefox
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Re: season hours

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LouBarlow wrote:
01 Aug 2023, 05:24
If managers on a local level, decide to ignore this, and add hours to the finish time, what is the best recourse? Just refusal to work later, or union involvement?
Surely you all as a unit refuse to do it as its a national agreement can't see how the dom can enforce it or conduct anyone.
LouBarlow
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Re: season hours

Post by LouBarlow »

thefox wrote:
01 Aug 2023, 05:50
LouBarlow wrote:
01 Aug 2023, 05:24
If managers on a local level, decide to ignore this, and add hours to the finish time, what is the best recourse? Just refusal to work later, or union involvement?
Surely you all as a unit refuse to do it as its a national agreement can't see how the dom can enforce it or conduct anyone.
Yeah I think there are only a minority in my office who would do this. We still have people coming in early and working for free already. Even despite being made to work to our finish time.
wallan
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Re: season hours

Post by wallan »

There will be be some unofficial Local Agreements
Woody Guthrie
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Re: season hours

Post by Woody Guthrie »

As Martin points out there is no scope in the approach for managers making it up to suit themselves, this is driven by the business.

SISO and PSP will be adjusted to reflect the national position so it simply won't work if offices try to do their own thing. It has been made clear to COMs that it is not unit led.
Only dead fish follow the current
Valentina@1
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Re: season hours

Post by Valentina@1 »

You think managers care what Martin walsh says😭😭😭😭😭………the days of reps backing us up are sadly over,it’s clear as day👍
LouBarlow
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Re: season hours

Post by LouBarlow »

Been told this morning that it is 24 minutes before the duty as per the national agreement. I guess that is only till March next year when start times change anyway.
srilfc2013
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Re: season hours

Post by srilfc2013 »

We were told today that it starts on 4th September and finishes end of November. 12 weeks of 24 minutes earlier than current start time
redrobbo
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Re: season hours

Post by redrobbo »

We received this information today 24 mins per day increase early September to late Dec late Dec to mid-May normal hours then mid-May to early September 24mins reduced presumably from start of duty part-timers similar pattern but reduction/increase by 10 mins
A2B
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Post by A2B »

Why the variations of dates? :no no
thefox
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Re: season hours

Post by thefox »

srilfc2013 wrote:
01 Aug 2023, 15:09
We were told today that it starts on 4th September and finishes end of November. 12 weeks of 24 minutes earlier than current start time
Week 24-38 is 15 weeks this is bizarre different offices getting told different things.
neil2k
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Re: season hours

Post by neil2k »

Apologies if this has been covered before.

I signed for a duty a while back which is a 37 hour duty but I am only on a 35 hour contract. So I work 7 hours per day and claim overtime if required on the two long days. Going forward how does seasonal hours affect me? Am I classed as part time or full time? 24 minutes extra per day or 10 minutes per day?
A2B
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Re: season hours

Post by A2B »

RM say 35hrs and over is fulltime so 24mins
Rommagic
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Re: season hours

Post by Rommagic »

They need more staff for the dpr routes can't cover them then work given too delivery staff this season hours plays into there hands 24 mins less ot too pay out for etc.