I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.
Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
Maybe rampant inflation and mortgage rates spiking had something to do with Members voting for the deal.
My mortgage next year will increase by £400 a month so yeah any extra money for me is a good thing.
On the other hand he’s close to retirement probably doesn’t have a mortgage and probably could afford to go on more strikes.
We have to accept now the job as we knew it is gone so we can either stay or suck it up or move on to pastures new.
Just headed over to CWU twitter for the comments, not a single positive one to be seen.
That's Twitter for you.
Shouty people in shouty shocker.
Obviously not representative of the membership though.
Don't gloat mate.
I'm not.
We're in a dark place.
I genuinely think we would have been in a much darker place the longer this dispute had gone on but there's nothing to celebrate or gloat about in any of this.
There is a lesson we need to learn from the whole social media thing though, echo chambers like Facebook and Twitter or even this site are not a good barometer of progress.
How many of those promoting a No vote bothered to talk to the members in their offices? Constantly posting Vote No!!!! and calling people cowards, idiots and sellouts on social media obviously gained zero traction.
Sadly correct Woody, social media is the pariah of the modern world.
Everything about it, when you look at it, should be great but unfortunately it's human nature and we use it for it's worst possible use's.
Like spreading a lot of lies and worse than that the opinions of people who probably shouldn't be allowed to have one.
Doesn't sound democratic but it's what i think when i read some of the Crud on-line.
I bothered to talk to my rep when he said he was promoting a yes vote, i didn't badger him or try to cram anything down his throat and explained i couldn't and why, 2 weeks later he changed his mind.
Now i would like to take credit for it but even i don't think i am that persuasive, but i hope it made him think, sometimes that's the best argument.
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.
Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
Maybe rampant inflation and mortgage rates spiking had something to do with Members voting for the deal.
Maybe but that money wont go far or last long and you just wont be skint you''ll be twice as knackered bullied and harassed more than you could ever imagine,not get paid if you need to go sick,i could go on but im sure the members who voted yes know all this thats why i can't get my head around it,if it was 18% over 3 years and they left the sick and IHR i could of voted yes,im thinking of all those fit people now who will break down as they age and just be spat out the back with little recompense,as ive said only a couple years to go im financially stable,no mortgage and i feel for the one's behind me who may never have this as the union who were always there to protect pay and working conditions have been broken and let their members down,its a sad day for the working class.
just emailed them to cancel , i might as well save myself £14 a month and fight my own corner like i always have done , cwu all talk and no action
I’m sure you will still be pocketing the lump sum and pay rise happily enough though?
well yeh thats my 16 days strike money and the 2 days leave i lost for stood on the street , and whats it got to do with you ?
If you post on a public forum, expect a response. The hypocrisy of stamping your feet because the vote hasn’t gone your way, claiming the union has sold you out and how you are leaving it, while benefitting financially is off the charts.
not stamping my feet mate , and like i said i will take the pension pot bribe money , and i will be £4 a week better off as well , cheers
The company was continuing to go backwards whatever the vote was.
Another 2 years maximum and I am out of this company. Bullies throughout all management in this company. Poverty wages. Clueless management who make terrible decisions. Later working can bugga off.
We are struggling to find anyone to work for this company now, we are employing posties with an IQ of 10 and then having to ask them to leave. Imagine what happens with the continued fallout from this past year..... the workforce in 1 to 2 years time is likely going to be hard to come by and making all sorts of errors as they employ people with 0 GCSE's, who have no pride in the job, and deliver Mrs Hubbard at no.32 London Road parcel to 23 Squirrel Avenue.
75% of people supported a deal that was worse than the first one which we were almost all up for striking over?
I am proud to be different and shall embrace that fact that people just f-ing baffle me.
Based on the turnout and % of yes votes just over 50.86% of eligible voters said yes, the others said no/didn't vote,
so it's hardly a ringing endorsement for this deal!
Are you management?
The way you have put it, is exactly what Royal Mail would say..... and do, every time there is a ballot.
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.
Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
Maybe rampant inflation and mortgage rates spiking had something to do with Members voting for the deal.
Maybe but that money wont go far or last long and you just wont be skint you''ll be twice as knackered bullied and harassed more than you could ever imagine,not get paid if you need to go sick,i could go on but im sure the members who voted yes know all this thats why i can't get my head around it,if it was 18% over 3 years and they left the sick and IHR i could of voted yes,im thinking of all those fit people now who will break down as they age and just be spat out the back with little recompense,as ive said only a couple years to go im financially stable,no mortgage and i feel for the one's behind me who may never have this as the union who were always there to protect pay and working conditions have been broken and let their members down,its a sad day for the working class.
How are you going to be twice as knackered? You are being paid more for working the same hours.
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.
Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
Maybe rampant inflation and mortgage rates spiking had something to do with Members voting for the deal.
Maybe but that money wont go far or last long and you just wont be skint you''ll be twice as knackered bullied and harassed more than you could ever imagine,not get paid if you need to go sick,i could go on but im sure the members who voted yes know all this thats why i can't get my head around it,if it was 18% over 3 years and they left the sick and IHR i could of voted yes,im thinking of all those fit people now who will break down as they age and just be spat out the back with little recompense,as ive said only a couple years to go im financially stable,no mortgage and i feel for the one's behind me who may never have this as the union who were always there to protect pay and working conditions have been broken and let their members down,its a sad day for the working class.
How are you going to be twice as knackered? You are being paid more for working the same hours.
Why because deliveries will get a lot longer, later starts more time in sun.
To the posties that plod around those f***ers are going to use PDA to f***ing destroy you.
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.
Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
Maybe rampant inflation and mortgage rates spiking had something to do with Members voting for the deal.
Maybe but that money wont go far or last long and you just wont be skint you''ll be twice as knackered bullied and harassed more than you could ever imagine,not get paid if you need to go sick,i could go on but im sure the members who voted yes know all this thats why i can't get my head around it,if it was 18% over 3 years and they left the sick and IHR i could of voted yes,im thinking of all those fit people now who will break down as they age and just be spat out the back with little recompense,as ive said only a couple years to go im financially stable,no mortgage and i feel for the one's behind me who may never have this as the union who were always there to protect pay and working conditions have been broken and let their members down,its a sad day for the working class.
How are you going to be twice as knackered? You are being paid more for working the same hours.
hmmm looks like you never read the agreement ,good luck
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.
Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
Maybe rampant inflation and mortgage rates spiking had something to do with Members voting for the deal.
Maybe but that money wont go far or last long and you just wont be skint you''ll be twice as knackered bullied and harassed more than you could ever imagine,not get paid if you need to go sick,i could go on but im sure the members who voted yes know all this thats why i can't get my head around it,if it was 18% over 3 years and they left the sick and IHR i could of voted yes,im thinking of all those fit people now who will break down as they age and just be spat out the back with little recompense,as ive said only a couple years to go im financially stable,no mortgage and i feel for the one's behind me who may never have this as the union who were always there to protect pay and working conditions have been broken and let their members down,its a sad day for the working class.
How are you going to be twice as knackered? You are being paid more for working the same hours.
Why because deliveries will get a lot longer, later starts more time in sun.
To the posties that plod around those f***ers are going to use PDA to f***ing destroy you.
Where are you getting any of this nonsense from? Deliveries aren’t getting longer with this agreement. Your start time and indoor work hours will change.
It is amusing to me that you think your performance is going to be judged. The business can’t retain any of the new starters as their contracts are so shite. You still have power in your workplace. Stay in the union and embrace it.
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.
Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
Maybe rampant inflation and mortgage rates spiking had something to do with Members voting for the deal.
Maybe but that money wont go far or last long and you just wont be skint you''ll be twice as knackered bullied and harassed more than you could ever imagine,not get paid if you need to go sick,i could go on but im sure the members who voted yes know all this thats why i can't get my head around it,if it was 18% over 3 years and they left the sick and IHR i could of voted yes,im thinking of all those fit people now who will break down as they age and just be spat out the back with little recompense,as ive said only a couple years to go im financially stable,no mortgage and i feel for the one's behind me who may never have this as the union who were always there to protect pay and working conditions have been broken and let their members down,its a sad day for the working class.
How are you going to be twice as knackered? You are being paid more for working the same hours.
Why because deliveries will get a lot longer, later starts more time in sun.
To the posties that plod around those f***ers are going to use PDA to f***ing destroy you.
Where are you getting any of this nonsense from? Deliveries aren’t getting longer with this agreement. Your start time and indoor work hours will change.
It is amusing to me that you think your performance is going to be judged. The business can’t retain any of the new starters as their contracts are so shite. You still have power in your workplace. Stay in the union and embrace it.
You are forgetting the part in the agreement about introducing methods that will reduce the indoor work by 25 minutes, which means that those 25 minutes saved will be utilised by adding more onto the outdoor element of your daily workload
Less indoor work means more outdoor work.
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If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.
Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
Maybe rampant inflation and mortgage rates spiking had something to do with Members voting for the deal.
Maybe but that money wont go far or last long and you just wont be skint you''ll be twice as knackered bullied and harassed more than you could ever imagine,not get paid if you need to go sick,i could go on but im sure the members who voted yes know all this thats why i can't get my head around it,if it was 18% over 3 years and they left the sick and IHR i could of voted yes,im thinking of all those fit people now who will break down as they age and just be spat out the back with little recompense,as ive said only a couple years to go im financially stable,no mortgage and i feel for the one's behind me who may never have this as the union who were always there to protect pay and working conditions have been broken and let their members down,its a sad day for the working class.
How are you going to be twice as knackered? You are being paid more for working the same hours.
hmmm looks like you never read the agreement ,good luck
I actually have read it. If you can point out precisely where it states this agreement will ensure you will be working twice as hard i would appreciate it.
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.
Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
But without the strikes, wouldn't a lot more have been nibbled away?
I'll give it 3 months before all the yes voters will be moaning ,good luck amigo's your gonna need it.
Let’s see how many no voters leave the company and the union in the next three months I doubt many will.
Regardless of how anyone voted some unity is need now and not knee jerk reactions like leaving the union. Leaving the union and arguing amongst ourselves just plays into Royal Mails hands.
I've already left, how could i ever be a member of a union who have just signed a deal to give everything away,apart from the pitiful bribe there is not one thing in that deal that is good for anyone,i'm still trying to get my head around why ? But as i said good luck you are going to need it i'm a few years off retirement so am just going to sit it out and save my £16 a month and ive just seen my last ever strike, in the last 20 years every strike has ended with a little bit more nibbled away this one they have took a massive chunk it will never be the same again,
Maybe rampant inflation and mortgage rates spiking had something to do with Members voting for the deal.
Maybe but that money wont go far or last long and you just wont be skint you''ll be twice as knackered bullied and harassed more than you could ever imagine,not get paid if you need to go sick,i could go on but im sure the members who voted yes know all this thats why i can't get my head around it,if it was 18% over 3 years and they left the sick and IHR i could of voted yes,im thinking of all those fit people now who will break down as they age and just be spat out the back with little recompense,as ive said only a couple years to go im financially stable,no mortgage and i feel for the one's behind me who may never have this as the union who were always there to protect pay and working conditions have been broken and let their members down,its a sad day for the working class.
How are you going to be twice as knackered? You are being paid more for working the same hours.
Why because deliveries will get a lot longer, later starts more time in sun.
To the posties that plod around those f***ers are going to use PDA to f***ing destroy you.
Where are you getting any of this nonsense from? Deliveries aren’t getting longer with this agreement. Your start time and indoor work hours will change.
It is amusing to me that you think your performance is going to be judged. The business can’t retain any of the new starters as their contracts are so shite. You still have power in your workplace. Stay in the union and embrace it.
You are forgetting the part in the agreement about introducing methods that will reduce the indoor work by 25 minutes, which means that 25 minutes saved will be utilised by adding more onto the outdoor element of your daily workload
Yes 25 minutes more outdoors is definitely going to be equivalent to twice the workload.
Seriously. You lost the vote. Why are you even carrying on with this nonsense?
, and i will be £4 a week better off as well